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Well............
I have some old milsurps that when de-coppered/fouled I need to shoot half dozen or so shots to fill in potholes before usual accuracy resumes.
Other rifles I'll remove copper/fouling from time to time so gun shoots better.
Ive concerns that copper left in barrel has potentially corrosive fouling under copper that will pit bbl.
The guy can do as he wants, I'll do as I do.
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Those gun patches aren't coming out blue/green for no reason.
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I think the guy believes that we shoot rifles with "smart" barrels.
The bbl knows when to stop stripping bullet jacket material from bullet when striations? <tool surface damage and bore roughness> are filled in.
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“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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I would like to know what is the metalergic makeup of copper jackets
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This video proves that any idiot can make a video, whether or not he knows of what he speaks.
Anyone who shoots extensive amounts of ammo knows that barrels puke at some point due to copper fouling.
Sometimes it takes 50 rounds to severely foul a barrel. Sometimes it takes 500.
And he certainly knows nothing of the chemistry of barrel cleaning. He is surprised when ammonia eats a bronze brush?????
The only thing he says which is close to accurate, is that many barrels will shoot better fouled than when stripped to bare steel. My old 06 from forty years ago always threw the first shot from a clean bore. Clean it, fire two, go hunting!
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I would like to know what is the metalergic makeup of copper jackets
Norm Generally 95% copper, 5% zinc. Swift A-Frames are pure copper jacket. But that is an exception.
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He has a whole string of videos and I've learned some things I hadn't known before. Don't count him out just for this ridicules concept.
But yeah, he's full of shiit on this one.
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I think, he's mostly full off himself.
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I've stumbled on his videos a few times. I can't listen to him for more than a minute or so before he gets on my nerves.
Him and "The Real Gunsmith" are two peas in a pod.
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This video seems to be making the rounds lately on the gun forums. Believe what you will.
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People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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I have known this for years.
Old shooters are pretty smart.
One can clean a bore.... or one an remove ALL copper fouling and open up the pits and holes in bore and encourage more corrosion with the
harsh bore cleaner.
Get a bore light and learn something !!!!!
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How many rounds does it take before there is so much copper (not carbon) layered in the barrel that a bullet can no longer travel through the restricted bore diameter and the gun explodes? A thousand? 5 million? Never?
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I think this guy smoked too much dope in the 60s, maybe even took some mind altering drugs.
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The real gem, at 6:01, you can't have a smooth barrel unless it is cold hammer-forged. Whenever you talk in absolutes, you open yourself up for real trouble. Calling copper fouling a *LIE* is a big mistake. In fact, anybody that would post this video thinking they are doing the shooting world a solid is myopic at best. He's discredited himself. But did he ever have credibility? Listening to him is like watching paint dry and he obviously loves the sound of his own voice.
His conclusion is simply wrong. A better conclusion would be "for my relatively low standards for precision, I can't shoot well enough with my rifle for copper fouling to be the limiting factor". For the old man shooting 1-2 MOA with a pencil barrel firing ten or twenty rounds a year, copper doesn't matter to him much.
For the PRS shooter, the Benchrest shooter, the F-Class shooter, or the heavy varmint hunter, copper fouling is a very real and very detrimental thing. Any idiot with a bore scope should be able to figure that part out.
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Well, that's 14 minutes of my life I will never get back.
Complete waste of bandwidth.
Hope nobody is paying this guy.
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