Swaro. I have a 3-10x42 AV, and while it’s not perfect, as far as mechanically when zeroing etc, it’s far better than Leup. Dialed up and killed a buck at 520 yards with it, too. Of course it’s optically awesome.
All are pieces of fhuqking schit. Nothing is heavier than a scope that doesn't/cant work. I have lots and lots of Flyweight rifles,more than a few of which are 223/223AI's. Hint.
SFP sucks ass,as does schit reticles,with schit guts. I'd just as soon drive a 6x MQ there and do on a goodly herd. Fast,efficient,exceedingly robust/reliable and wearing a meaningful reticle that will get a 223 to 1000yds,by just fhuqking looking through it. Wind is capably handled(it will easily handle 20mph full value at 1000yds with 88's) and there's NO fhuqking around. Hint.
Though I actually shoot. Need to bolt up my newest Flyweight 7" RPM 700 Custom,that is still setting in it's shipping packaging and bang away with my newest Howie Mini Carbon Bitch in 6 ARC,that I just bought minutes ago. Hint.
That which matters MOST about bullet steering optics,are the things you can't see. Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
I’ve owned all 3. As usual if you can sift through the oddities, Stick is right. They all suck. That little SWFA tunnels terribly and has a lousy eyebox. The Swaro and Leup are just simply unreliable. Keep looking. And spoiler…. You are going to have to accept a few extra ounces if you want anything reliable.
There was a 1” S&B 6x in the classifieds here. That would be my choice.
I’ve owned all 3. As usual if you can sift through the oddities, Stick is right. They all suck. That little SWFA tunnels terribly and has a lousy eyebox. The Swaro and Leup are just simply unreliable. Keep looking. And spoiler…. You are going to have to accept a few extra ounces if you want anything reliable.
There was a 1” S&B 6x in the classifieds here. That would be my choice.
Guys just don't want to hear their precious high dollar Swaro's are "unreliable", but that was the case with the Z3 3-9x36 I had. Replaced that pos with an older Zeiss Conquest MC 3.5-10x44 and that one has been rock solid. Excellent glass, but is a "set and forget" scope as far as I'm concerned. I actually just pulled that scope off today and will be selling it and another Zeiss soon. Sounds like the OP is SOL if those are the only options he has to choose from. Living up to his handle though.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
z3 and z5 swaros are complete crap. i got stories.. but they aren't second hand and they aren't good.
leupold is probably okay if you don't demand much. but i've had 2 known "good" leupolds turn a 10shot 1 hole 6br into a 2 moa rifle. one was mine, the other was a friends to make a point.
the only swfa 2.5-10 i've been around would have been okay if it was a fixed 6... but the view is pretty rubbish above 8x.
I was just looking for a little more magnification for shooting ground squirrels out past 150ish yards..... I have 6x 36 Leopolds on various rifles and they hold zero and work fine for inside 100 yds and deer as far as I care to shoot..... if I can't get a lightweight variable that hols zero and has a decent eye box/relief I will just stick with what I got..... I have other, heavier rifles that wear larger scopes better for me.
Was really hoping the SWFA 2.5-10-36 had a better view. Thanks
I Love my Swarovski Binoculars and spotter....IMO there is none better...... That said I will never own another Swaro rifle scope.....Leupold on this decision
z3 and z5 swaros are complete crap. i got stories.. but they aren't second hand and they aren't good.
leupold is probably okay if you don't demand much. but i've had 2 known "good" leupolds turn a 10shot 1 hole 6br into a 2 moa rifle. one was mine, the other was a friends to make a point.
the only swfa 2.5-10 i've been around would have been okay if it was a fixed 6... but the view is pretty rubbish above 8x.
Z3 and Z5 scopes are a complexly different build quality and design. I have had a Z5 on 3 different rifles and never had zero issue and they were all magnum rifles.
You're on your own then. IMO, that's simply unrealistic if you value reliability. A Trijicon Accupoint will be the closest you'll get that's still a good scope.
