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What options are there for spotting scopes with mil reticles?
Is there anything on the market in the $500-$1000 range, or am I going to have to step ip to alpha glass?
I know very little about this area of optics. My needs are not for competitions, just for recreational long range shooting both rimfire and centerfire. TIA


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I'd go Bushy Legend 781545ED and never look back. It CRUSHES my Reupold MK4 12-40x 60mm Gen2 FFP,for 1/3 the loot. Hint................


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Thanks Stick.
Hey, on another optics topic, I just picked up an Athlon Helos BTR Gen2 2-12. I see in one of your pics that you have a few. How are they for durability, RTZ, tracking, and glass clarity etc?


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Never heard of 'em. Hint.(grin)

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They are of course fhuqking sensational. Hint...............


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I have high hopes for it but haven’t had the chance to try it out since mounting it on my RAR/Magpul Hunter 6.5 Creedmoor.


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I'd go Bushy Legend 781545ED and never look back. It CRUSHES my Reupold MK4 12-40x 60mm Gen2 FFP,for 1/3 the loot. Hint................

And if you're mil/vet they're even less!


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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
What options are there for spotting scopes with mil reticles?
Is there anything on the market in the $500-$1000 range, or am I going to have to step ip to alpha glass?
I know very little about this area of optics. My needs are not for competitions, just for recreational long range shooting both rimfire and centerfire. TIA

It’s a little above your stated price range, but I have the Tract Toric Spotter with the 22x Eyepiece with the MIL reticle, and it is simply amazing. Beautiful image, huge FOV and eye relief. A bit higher than your price range, but not nearly “Alpha” price. Tract offers a much appreciated military/LE discount which helps a bunch too.

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For reasons I'll never understand,TRACT only makes Spotters that are Angled Weather Catchers. Likely because none of 'em actually shoot. Hint...............


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I much prefer straight spotters for hunting or field work, u can find your target much quicker than with an angled.

The angled have their advantages as you can use a shorter tripod and they are arguably more comfortable to use due to a more natural head position, but to me the straight wins by a large margin.

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I looked at a bunch of the reviews of the Bushnell spotter. There was a large number of issues with “spotted” glass and the rubber ring in the ocular fallong off/not rotating the adjustment it covers.
Have these been resolved? I did note that most of those reviews were a few years old.


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Originally Posted by spence1875
I much prefer straight spotters for hunting or field work, u can find your target much quicker than with an angled.

The angled have their advantages as you can use a shorter tripod and they are arguably more comfortable to use due to a more natural head position, but to me the straight wins by a large margin.

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I agree on the angled eye pieces. They’re more comfortable but finding the image is difficult.

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It’s a little above your stated price range, but I have the Tract Toric Spotter with the 22x Eyepiece with the MIL reticle, and it is simply amazing. Beautiful image, huge FOV and eye relief. A bit higher than your price range, but not nearly “Alpha” price. Tract offers a much appreciated military/LE discount which helps a bunch too.
Unfortunately, being retired in this age of Bidenflation, my budget does not work for a package that will run upwards of $1900. Thanks for the suggestion though.


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Thanks I’ll look into it.


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Originally Posted by m_stevenson
I looked at a bunch of the reviews of the Bushnell spotter. There was a large number of issues with “spotted” glass and the rubber ring in the ocular fallong off/not rotating the adjustment it covers.
Have these been resolved? I did note that most of those reviews were a few years old.

I've only gawked a half dozen or so and it's the one you want. Hint..................


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A buddy has the Bushnell and it is great glass for the price. Compared side by side with my pre Hd leupold GR spotter and it was tie to me and him honestly.

My Zeiss Dialyt 65 and an another guys apo Leica televid 65 blew the Bushnell and leupold out of the water for depth/ease of view and edge to edge clarity, but they should as they cost a lot more.

If you can wait Bushnell offers some deals on those time to time. My buddy with his LEO discount paid around 500 ish.

Personal opinion I believe in the buy once cry once for binos and spotters, an alpha spotter should last a lifetime, I would wait for a good deal on a used/demo Zeiss, swaro, Nikon, leica kowa etc.., top tier one versus the Bushnell.

Give Doug at Cameraland a call and see what he has in demos.

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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Big Stick
I'd go Bushy Legend 781545ED and never look back. It CRUSHES my Reupold MK4 12-40x 60mm Gen2 FFP,for 1/3 the loot. Hint................

And if you're mil/vet they're even less!

Where did you buy to get the Vet discount?


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Originally Posted by spence1875
A buddy has the Bushnell and it is great glass for the price. Compared side by side with my pre Hd leupold GR spotter and it was tie to me and him honestly.

My Zeiss Dialyt 65 and an another guys apo Leica televid 65 blew the Bushnell and leupold out of the water for depth/ease of view and edge to edge clarity, but they should as they cost a lot more.

If you can wait Bushnell offers some deals on those time to time. My buddy with his LEO discount paid around 500 ish.

Personal opinion I believe in the buy once cry once for binos and spotters, an alpha spotter should last a lifetime, I would wait for a good deal on a used/demo Zeiss, swaro, Nikon, leica kowa etc.., top tier one versus the Bushnell.

Give Doug at Cameraland a call and see what he has in demos.

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Do any of those have the mil reticle?


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
I'd go Bushy Legend 781545ED and never look back. It CRUSHES my Reupold MK4 12-40x 60mm Gen2 FFP,for 1/3 the loot. Hint................

Agreed...I've got the same Leupold scope with mil reticle... it's very mediocre for the price. It's now a $1500 beater scope in my range bag.

The reticle is mostly just in the way. By the time your spotter gets aligned on the target...you've probably already sent it.

Plus...if I can't see my own splash I'm either too close for it to matter or I'm having a major problem with recoil management.

Plus...if I'm listening to my spotter tell me where I missed instead of sending another one, I'm wasting time while the wind changes.

Plus...if the splash is too subtle to see, grass or wet ground, that reticle is not going to help your spotter see it. It's just in the way.

Edit: if you're spotting for someone at a match, I can see the utility. Otherwise...

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Bushnell 78154ED on Amazon $560.99


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No the alphas didn’t. The Leupold did as it was my issued one. As stated The usefulness of the reticle mainly comes when spotting for someone.

If you are solo, I think it is actually a negative, clutters the view to me.

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