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...Straight comb on '51 is NOT unusual. No one said it was. Unless I missed that?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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If everything else checks out it’s definitely possible that the MC stock is correct on S/N 195,5XX. The receiver went through the Polishing Room and was serialized in September of 1951 and it’s more than likely it was assembled and left the factory sometime in 1952. Highly unlikely that Winchester would have catalogued MC stocks in the 1952 catalog if some hadn’t already been manufactured and were already in the pipeline. Additionally, the availability of MC stocks by Special Order was catalogued a couple years before 1952.
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Sweet rifle there J. Very clean. Great rifle to use irons with. Assuming it's got the original low comb stock. 50/50 on whether it has a recoil pad.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Sweet rifle there J. Very clean. Great rifle to use irons with. Assuming it's got the original low comb stock. 50/50 on whether it has a recoil pad. Picture of the stock not cut all original.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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It is very clean. It’s a beautiful rifle.
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Sweet rifle there J. Very clean. Great rifle to use irons with. Assuming it's got the original low comb stock. 50/50 on whether it has a recoil pad. Picture of the stock not cut all original. Very nice man!! Great find..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Anything to look for to see if stock is original to the gun? Fitment? The easiest way to tell is by looking at the checkering panels and the shape of the stock. There are telltale signs in the finish and color as well. If it retains the original finish. I always look at the butt plates too. Those switched to composite after late '58. I've never seen a 1951 with a montecarlo stock either, like you were alluding to. Doesn't seem possible, but anything could have happened with the earlier Winchester manufacturing. They had clean up periods, where they had some mixed up parts too. Of course, a pre war is not going to have a montecarlo stock. That may have a custom/non factory stock. Check the tang (should be a clover leaf tang), and see how the stock fits in that area. All this pre war and model 70 talk is making me want to go and buy the pre war I saw for $650 the other day.. after selling the scope that's on it, I'd be into the rifle for $500.00. Those are the kinds of deals I find. The last all original std wt I saw was made in 1950. That one was $700.00, last fall. A pre war for $650? I'd hurt myself running for that one if it was decent.
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Rsiros: The "solid bolt" feature on that Standard Rifle makes it a more desirable gun. If you are going to Hunt with it the non-factory bolt and follower jeweling may also be a plus. Sight hoods are relatively cheap and the replacement sight will be a plus for that "Hunting Rifle" if it is to be scoped. My research shows that this Rifle is a "pre-Viet Nam war" Model having been manufactured on or right about February 26th 1,951. Enjoy that fine, solid, handsome, safe and classic Rifle (if you get it!). Long live the Riflemans Rifle. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Thanks for the information! When you say “solid bolt” are you referring to the one with the Monte Carlo stock? I’ll definitely post some pictures tomorrow morning for you all to assess.
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Great looking rifle! Thanks for the pictures… those will definitely come in handy.
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Thanks for the information! When you say “solid bolt” are you referring to the one with the Monte Carlo stock? I’ll definitely post some pictures tomorrow morning for you all to assess. If I'm not mistaken, we were talking 2 different rifles. Can you clarify what the serial # is of the first rifle we were discussing. That way some of these guys and myself have some clarification. I'm thinking some of them are stating the first rifle was made in 1951, when it may not have been.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Sorry for the confusion.
Rifle 1 is serial #1795** (1950) and is the one with a straight stock and multiple pictures.
Rifle 2 is serial #1955** (1951) and has the Monte Carlo stock and one super crappy picture. This is the rifle I will see at the auction tomorrow.
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Didn’t even bother to take pictures. The stock was light on one side and 2 shades darker on the other… looked like it was partially refinished or something.
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Don’t rush into a purchase, you’ll eventually find the right one, there’s a lot of nice ‘06’s out there.
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Yep… thanks again for the advice. I’ll keep looking!
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...The stock was light on one side and 2 shades darker on the other… looked like it was partially refinished or something. More likely because it was hung on a wall and sunlight bleached the finish on one side.
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@@ 79S I really like the grain in the wood on your rifle. Very nice!!!!!
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Sorry for the confusion.
Rifle 1 is serial #1795** (1950) and is the one with a straight stock and multiple pictures.
Rifle 2 is serial #1955** (1951) and has the Monte Carlo stock and one super crappy picture. This is the rifle I will see at the auction tomorrow. Thanks buddy. That is what I thought. The second rifle you pictured does not look like the original stock, like I said previously. That is based off of the 1 poor quality picture, but to me it looks like a stock from '59-1963. In your later posts, you mention the stock being lighter in color on one side. Without looking at pictures, that would also lead me to believe it is a later stock (59-1963), as I said in an earlier post, there were color differences as per era. You'll see that when someone tries to refinish them. Not a problem that you didn't take pictures, but I can almost guarantee that stock was not original to that rifle (I'm talking about the second rifle made in '51 here guys), also as I stated earlier. The first rifle you had questions about is still a great buy. Let the guys not get confused about that one, that is the low comb 1950 30-06. The one I gave the year made and cartridge, without even seeing the serial #. Too bad about the second rifle you mention, but I kind of thought it was going to go that way with that one, once you looked at it better.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Don’t rush into a purchase, you’ll eventually find the right one, there’s a lot of nice ‘06’s out there. Absolutely. Far and away the most common chambering; the right one will show up with patience.
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