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Although not particularly a Crenshaw fanboi, when one is spot on, I give kudos........ An excellent response by Crenshaw and a good article in AT an excerpt...... Dana Bash’s Logical Incoherence on School Shootings By Richard McDonough Upon receiving the news of the horrific killing of six people, including three nine-year old children, by a deranged and troubled shooter in Nashville, the Democrats and their stenographers in what passes as our “news” media immediately began their cultish ritual: knee-jerk calls for stricter gun control. In a revealing exchange between CNN’s Dana Bash and Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Bash accused House Republicans of loving guns more than children. She asked: Are you…telling the American people that mass shootings, including of young children, is just something that’s going to happen and you’re not going to make any moves, at this point to try to stop it? The accusation, repeating the familiar liberal-media trope, is, of course, that Republicans do not care enough about the lives of our children to do anything that might weaken the Second Amendment. In response, Crenshaw proposed a foolproof solution to end school shootings: station at least two armed guards in every school in the United States. Bash replied, sarcastically, with a generality: “So the answer is more guns?” It is not clear why Bash thinks this question is legitimate. When one has a problem one often uses empiricism to resolve it — it is not a witticism contest. Here’s an analogous hypothetical: if firefighters propose igniting backfires in an area between a housing complex and a massive forest fire, a cocky reporter with a Bachelor’s degree in Narcissism Studies and knows nothing about fire-fighting but has a flair for the appeal to emotion fallacies so popular within her profession, might sarcastically ask, “So the answer is more fire?” The answer would be… “Yes.” (Sometimes it is necessary to burn out an area in the path of the fire because this destroys the fuel for the fire in a controlled way to prevent a firestorm that would burn everything, including any animals and people unable to be removed.) Similarly, when a doctor tells a patient he needs to vaccinate her with a live virus (cowpox) in order to prevent a virulent natural virus (smallpox) the patient might ask, incredulously, “So the answer to my virus infection is more virus?” However, the correct answer, by people outside of newsrooms who actually know something, might well say, “Yes, just as one can only fight fire with fire, sometimes one can only fight a virus with a virus.” One could add numerous additional examples but the point should now be clear enough that even a liberal “journalist” can understand it. Crenshaw responds to her question slightly differently though: No, the answer is armed guards. The answer is armed guards, right? Yes, more guns – the kind of guns that protect the President, that protect you all at CNN. Is it easy to get into your headquarters at CNN? Absolutely not. There’s armed guards there. There’s single points of entry. I think we should look at our schools as a place that is precious and have the same kind of security that your corporate offices do, that we do in Congress. You know if we consider a place to be important where our children go to learn every day, it should have the same level of security as every other place, whether it’s a shopping mall or a corporate office that’s hard to get into.......... https://www.americanthinker.com/art...cal_incoherence_on_school_shootings.htmlya! GWB
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Although not particularly a Crenshaw fanboi, when one is spot on, I give kudos........ An excellent response by Crenshaw and a good article in AT an excerpt...... Dana Bash’s Logical Incoherence on School Shootings By Richard McDonough Upon receiving the news of the horrific killing of six people, including three nine-year old children, by a deranged and troubled shooter in Nashville, the Democrats and their stenographers in what passes as our “news” media immediately began their cultish ritual: knee-jerk calls for stricter gun control. In a revealing exchange between CNN’s Dana Bash and Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Bash accused House Republicans of loving guns more than children. She asked: Are you…telling the American people that mass shootings, including of young children, is just something that’s going to happen and you’re not going to make any moves, at this point to try to stop it? The accusation, repeating the familiar liberal-media trope, is, of course, that Republicans do not care enough about the lives of our children to do anything that might weaken the Second Amendment. In response, Crenshaw proposed a foolproof solution to end school shootings: station at least two armed guards in every school in the United States. Bash replied, sarcastically, with a generality: “So the answer is more guns?” It is not clear why Bash thinks this question is legitimate. When one has a problem one often uses empiricism to resolve it — it is not a witticism contest. Here’s an analogous hypothetical: if firefighters propose igniting backfires in an area between a housing complex and a massive forest fire, a cocky reporter with a Bachelor’s degree in Narcissism Studies and knows nothing about fire-fighting but has a flair for the appeal to emotion fallacies so popular within her profession, might sarcastically ask, “So the answer is more fire?” The answer would be… “Yes.” (Sometimes it is necessary to burn out an area in the path of the fire because this destroys the fuel for the fire in a controlled way to prevent a firestorm that would burn everything, including any animals and people unable to be removed.) Similarly, when a doctor tells a patient he needs to vaccinate her with a live virus (cowpox) in order to prevent a virulent natural virus (smallpox) the patient might ask, incredulously, “So the answer to my virus infection is more virus?” However, the correct answer, by people outside of newsrooms who actually know something, might well say, “Yes, just as one can only fight fire with fire, sometimes one can only fight a virus with a virus.” One could add numerous additional examples but the point should now be clear enough that even a liberal “journalist” can understand it. Crenshaw responds to her question slightly differently though: No, the answer is armed guards. The answer is armed guards, right? Yes, more guns – the kind of guns that protect the President, that protect you all at CNN. Is it easy to get into your headquarters at CNN? Absolutely not. There’s armed guards there. There’s single points of entry. I think we should look at our schools as a place that is precious and have the same kind of security that your corporate offices do, that we do in Congress. You know if we consider a place to be important where our children go to learn every day, it should have the same level of security as every other place, whether it’s a shopping mall or a corporate office that’s hard to get into.......... https://www.americanthinker.com/art...cal_incoherence_on_school_shootings.htmlya! GWB The Commie Socialist DemoRat’s and Libertards aren’t interested in a REAL solution to the problem. They’re only interested in using each and every tragedy as another opportunity to disarm Freedom Loving Conservative American’s 😡
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I do believe that it the point of the article...........
one more excerpt!
"Crenshaw proposed a specific concrete solution to stop school shootings that Bash cynically and casually dismissed by employing several logical fallacies because it doesn’t fit the liberal script of gun control. Unfortunately, this is par for the course in what remains of our “news” media. Most journalists are not trained to solve real-world problems. They don’t actually know much except what goes on in their privileged little newsroom bubbles. They are trained to grab eyeballs for themselves by making sensationalistic claims and accusing people, sometimes real heroes like Crenshaw, of heartlessness or malfeasance. It is no wonder that a majority of the American people believe that what passes for our “news” media is dividing the country with their constant politically partisan shenanigans."
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I do believe that it the point of the article...........
one more excerpt!
"Crenshaw proposed a specific concrete solution to stop school shootings that Bash cynically and casually dismissed by employing several logical fallacies because it doesn’t fit the liberal script of gun control. Unfortunately, this is par for the course in what remains of our “news” media. Most journalists are not trained to solve real-world problems. They don’t actually know much except what goes on in their privileged little newsroom bubbles. They are trained to grab eyeballs for themselves by making sensationalistic claims and accusing people, sometimes real heroes like Crenshaw, of heartlessness or malfeasance. It is no wonder that a majority of the American people believe that what passes for our “news” media is dividing the country with their constant politically partisan shenanigans."
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There are 27 schools in the city I live in. One of the largest has no less than 7-8 buildings, maybe more. Over 18,000 students. How many armed guards will it take to protect them?
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One thing is for sure, more gun laws aren't "preventative" measures. After all, if laws prevented anything, why doesn't the law of "thou shall not commit murder" prevent anyone from committing murder. The gun is just the tool to do it. Lots of choices for tools. Confiscate every AR known to man in the USA and it won't stop people from killin other people.
Laws aren't preventative measures. In other words, more laws won't prevent gun crime from happening.
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There are 27 schools in the city I live in. One of the largest has no less than 7-8 buildings, maybe more. Over 18,000 students. How many armed guards will it take to protect them? As many as needed. Who cares how many it takes. And how about arming teachers after required training! Every school in my old home town has a uniformed City Police Officer on Duty.
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Also makes "sense" to many of the FUDDS on here. the AR15 is a soulless weapon for feckless people. I am a 75 year old life long Republican. Last week I early voted for Biden, sometime when you hire some one they don't work out, that's the way I look at Trump. As I said I voted Republican far more than democrat. Just couldn’t vote for this guy. Trump fought against the vaccine because he knew that's what his base of dumbasses were easiest to be hoodwinked on. Joe has been working to save those dumbasses, that I hate to say. No, Biden is clearing up the chaos caused by Trump. You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns. The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. No, I voted against the incumbent Biden is a mush-brained geriatric. I agree. Trump is worse. Where are the moderators? Because I don`t like trump does not make me anything other than anti trump. Being anti trump does not make me anti Republican. Well I`ll say DEATH TO MAGA!!! May the ex president and traitor be convicted and spend the rest of his life in prison. Getting vaccinated is not a political issue, or a freedoms issue, it is a public health issue. I consider anyone that is refusing the vaccine as stupid. It’s free insurance against a potentially fatal disease. [bleep] trump, all that needs be said I don't think either Trump nor DeSantis is the best choice. I'm kind of liking Nikki Haley. After all these years I can pick a phony pretty easily, and the biggest one so far is Donald Duck. He thinks more of his ego than his country, can't accept losing, even when told so my his inner circle and the courts. Thinks the Constitution is for others, not him, why else would he encourage a Insurrection and make such a damning statement about the safety of his Vice. The guy is a looser, will do what I can to see anyone else win in 24, ANYONE !!! Trump has convinced me his moral foundations are flexible enough to be non-existent. A liar who is telling you what you want to hear is still a larr. But idiots give Trump a pass for being a human piece of [bleep] because they like him. The only fair election for Trump and the Trump Mafia and his gang of jack booting brown shirts is the one they win.
I will vote for any Republican candidate on the ticket, but not for that buffoon.
He's finished. Outside of Trump’s getting some appointees into the Supreme Court, we would have likely been better off if Hillary had won 2016. I suspect history will be kind to Pence.
He stood between a sociopathic president, who was trying to steal the election, and our democracy and sacrificed his political career to save the democracy. I'm no Biden fan but am pretty sure he actually won the election. Trump is an obnoxious, self-promoting prick. Some of the amendments are not worth what some people think they are.
Society changes, so too does the interpretation of the amendments to the Constitution. DJT gave us Biden and Harris. Make no mistake about it. I didn't vote against Trump. I didn't vote period. glysophate causes cancer. It's called the farmer's disease. I wish I could get snubbed by a bunch morons whose common denominator is licking Trumps a$$.
Oh, wait, I already have – here. I got the shot, did it for my country and am proud. Getting the shot is the most patriotic thing you can do. Oh christ, we have to deal with this [bleep] [bleep] again? Biden sucks donkey dick, but I can't imagine another 4 years listening to Trumps idiotic ramblings a pot stirring. The dude is a grade A [bleep], and I've never understood how some of you fangirl so hard over him. [bleep] Trump. DeSantis 2024 or antbody else I'd live in Oregon any day before MO. At least here if my grandaughter gets raped by a retarded black ghetto rat, she can opt to remove that demon from her belly. The issue with Trump, is that he is a narcissistic, ignoramus piece of schit, Trump is about 2 months from an ankle bracelet. IMHO. Buckle up, Buttercup! Too bad most of the trailer trash that voted for Trump aren't smart enough to also take advantage...they should learn to invest instead of spending their money on maga trucker hats, nascar tickets, and driving to trump rallies. PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. but it seems as though Trump's. And his non-stopping retarded followers. Don't you think?
That sounds like Trump...he never built the wall he promised. Trump has no clue on manufacturing or international companies and screwed anyone in that business. He caused major layoffs and supply chain disruptions to the point we couldn't build product. I stand by my opinion the republican's need to bring a good candidate to fix all the damage trump left behind. He was setting up the supply chain mess before Covid was even an issue. there needs to be a monitor to stop all this BS from the children on the 24 HR CF. please git rid of the name callers. and clean off the trash from here.. THANK YOU.. He deserves an indictment. Sorry but he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. He wanted to and tried to get his supporters to overthrow our government. I am tired of Trump and the Marjorie Taylor Green, and Kari Lake BS era. We need to move on!
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Although not particularly a Crenshaw fanboi, when one is spot on, I give kudos........ An excellent response by Crenshaw and a good article in AT an excerpt...... Dana Bash’s Logical Incoherence on School Shootings By Richard McDonough Upon receiving the news of the horrific killing of six people, including three nine-year old children, by a deranged and troubled shooter in Nashville, the Democrats and their stenographers in what passes as our “news” media immediately began their cultish ritual: knee-jerk calls for stricter gun control. In a revealing exchange between CNN’s Dana Bash and Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Bash accused House Republicans of loving guns more than children. She asked: Are you…telling the American people that mass shootings, including of young children, is just something that’s going to happen and you’re not going to make any moves, at this point to try to stop it? The accusation, repeating the familiar liberal-media trope, is, of course, that Republicans do not care enough about the lives of our children to do anything that might weaken the Second Amendment. In response, Crenshaw proposed a foolproof solution to end school shootings: station at least two armed guards in every school in the United States. Bash replied, sarcastically, with a generality: “So the answer is more guns?” It is not clear why Bash thinks this question is legitimate. When one has a problem one often uses empiricism to resolve it — it is not a witticism contest. Here’s an analogous hypothetical: if firefighters propose igniting backfires in an area between a housing complex and a massive forest fire, a cocky reporter with a Bachelor’s degree in Narcissism Studies and knows nothing about fire-fighting but has a flair for the appeal to emotion fallacies so popular within her profession, might sarcastically ask, “So the answer is more fire?” The answer would be… “Yes.” (Sometimes it is necessary to burn out an area in the path of the fire because this destroys the fuel for the fire in a controlled way to prevent a firestorm that would burn everything, including any animals and people unable to be removed.) Similarly, when a doctor tells a patient he needs to vaccinate her with a live virus (cowpox) in order to prevent a virulent natural virus (smallpox) the patient might ask, incredulously, “So the answer to my virus infection is more virus?” However, the correct answer, by people outside of newsrooms who actually know something, might well say, “Yes, just as one can only fight fire with fire, sometimes one can only fight a virus with a virus.” One could add numerous additional examples but the point should now be clear enough that even a liberal “journalist” can understand it. Crenshaw responds to her question slightly differently though: No, the answer is armed guards. The answer is armed guards, right? Yes, more guns – the kind of guns that protect the President, that protect you all at CNN. Is it easy to get into your headquarters at CNN? Absolutely not. There’s armed guards there. There’s single points of entry. I think we should look at our schools as a place that is precious and have the same kind of security that your corporate offices do, that we do in Congress. You know if we consider a place to be important where our children go to learn every day, it should have the same level of security as every other place, whether it’s a shopping mall or a corporate office that’s hard to get into.......... https://www.americanthinker.com/art...cal_incoherence_on_school_shootings.htmlya! GWB The Commie Socialist DemoRat’s and Libertards aren’t interested in a REAL solution to the problem. They’re only interested in using each and every tragedy as another opportunity to disarm Freedom Loving Conservative American’s 😡 Do you realize you post alot like renegger50? My question is.. who was first? You are him? Who is trying to live vivaciously through another online peep? Just askin… I hope curiosity doesn’t kill the Kay no hard feelings not trying to start crap. Just curious
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JakeBlues, Thats one of the best ways to explain how stupid the Dem's Gun Control truly is!!!
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My question is.. who was first? You are him?
Who is trying to live vivaciously through another online peep?
Just askin… I hope curiosity doesn’t kill the Kay no hard feelings not trying to start crap. Just curious Pardon, but sometimes I am slow on the uptake...... By the mention of "renegger50, are you referring to "Renegade50"? I've enjoyed the sobriquet, Geedubya, since 2001 on Accurate Reloading, Saubier.Com, TooCoolFishing,TexasHuntingForums and on 24Hr Campfire since 2008. No offense to that gent, but I can't say that I am familiar with the "warp and woof" of his posts and retorts, nor would I know without checking the date of his original log-on to the 24hr fourm. Typically I post in the General Big Game, Hunting Rifles, and Single Shot forums. At times I dabble in the "Ask the Gunwriters and Optics forums. Lately, out of boredom I've been posting in the "Freak Show" more than in the past. Perhaps that is the cause of your confusion. Many of my posts are from my own stream of consciousness. When posting efforts of others I always give attribution either setting that apart in "" and providing links. I find that much easier than trying to "recreate the wheel" BTW, I'm short, fat, bald and old, but even when young, I do not believe I've ever been described as "vivacious. However, I have always striven to become a Professional Small Boy, and as such have always endeavored to live "vicariously" ya! GWB
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My question is.. who was first? You are him?
Who is trying to live vivaciously through another online peep?
Just askin… I hope curiosity doesn’t kill the Kay no hard feelings not trying to start crap. Just curious Pardon, but sometimes I am slow on the uptake...... By the mention of "renegger50, are you referring to "Renegade50"? I've enjoyed the sobriquet, Geedubya, since 2001 on Accurate Reloading, Saubier.Com, TooCoolFishing,TexasHuntingForums and on 24Hr Campfire since 2008. No offense to that gent, but I can't say that I am familiar with the "warp and woof" of his posts and retorts, nor would I know without checking the date of his original log-on to the 24hr fourm. Typically I post in the General Big Game, Hunting Rifles, and Single Shot forums. At times I dabble in the "Ask the Gunwriters and Optics forums. Lately, out of boredom I've been posting in the "Freak Show" more than in the past. Perhaps that is the cause of your confusion. BTW, I'm short, fat, bald and old, but even when young, I do not believe I've ever been described as "vivacious. However, I have always striven to become a Professional Small Boy, and as such have always endeavored to live "vicariously" ya! GWB That is entirely my fault on the confusion, lort no not you. Chilito is the member I am referring to in the above post. Carry on, you sir are definitely an original type of gentlemen.
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