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Saw a few online news articles today saying that Sig 320’s are going off without their triggers being touched. I don’t remember anything about this being discussed around here before today? I figured I would have read about it on the fire before hearing about it on CNN? Anybody here have a 320?

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There was a post a couple months ago about it. IIRC someone stated the P320 could go off just sitting in a holster.


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Old story…trigger assemblys have been updated!

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Yeah, we kicked the Sig 320 thing around on the Campfire the end of last year I think it was.


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I'm still waiting for someone to offer real proof of any of it.


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Supposed to be a body cam video that shows a 320 going off while holstered as the officer exits the vehicle.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/co...a43c085-2ebc-5655-9c5f-f5f5592297ee.html

This is all different than the drop test thing that was a few years ago.

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You see quite a few P320's at the gun club during the USPSA matches. I have never heard of one firing by itself.

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Supposed to be a body cam video that shows a 320 going off while holstered as the officer exits the vehicle.

https://www.unionleader.com/news/co...a43c085-2ebc-5655-9c5f-f5f5592297ee.html

This is all different than the drop test thing that was a few years ago.

I'd love to see that video. I'm betting that this, and probably all the others, involves the user allowing some article of clothing to get into the trigger guard. The fact that this video and others alleged to exist aren't showing up in public is quite suspicious.

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The NH complaint is claiming the trigger pull of the P320 necessitates an external manual safety to protect against a discharge resulting from accidental or unintended trigger actuation.

You don't say.


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Still waiting for someone who's examined these defective pistols to explain the mechanical process that allows them to fire without the trigger being moved.


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When I bought my m17, I asked the dealer about it. He said it supposedly happened with an early Gen model. I can't explain it and he can't either. Don't think it will be a problem. I just bought a p320C and I'll let you know if a gun can and will fire on its own.....

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I thought they fixed that.



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They did....didn't hear what the problem was though

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The one video that I've seen that comes closest to showing clearly what happened is the Officer Johnathan Cross incident. It's not a high quality video, but it looks pretty clear that he was fidgeting with his gun, raising it from the holster and absent mindedly shoving it back in.

Just the same, as I mentioned in another thread or two, if I was buying a 320 I would give serious thought to having it modified with a thumb safety.


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I’m not sure if they fixed anything or not. If they came out and said yep we fixed it, they would lose any pending lawsuits. Right now they deny any problems.

There was a video of a comp shooter that showed his hands off the gun and his went off but being a GoPro type camera, it wasn’t exactly clear what happened. That video disappeared.

With Sig’s “upgrade” on the drop issue handled the way it was, I don’t think it will ever be settled.

I like Sig but currently don’t own any Sig products. I’ve seen more than a few of the 320’s in our matches and have never seen a problem. Back when the drop issue was gaining speed, a friend of mine was issued one and told me he would not turn his in. He shot it better than any pistol he ever shot and would simply not drop his. They are good pistols but Sig needs to get to the bottom of these claims and make them public one way or another.

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But they one contracts with triggers like that? Or was it a different model? Hmmmmm. And beat out Glock? But a cocked and locked 1911 is too scary?

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Originally Posted by Huntingfool270
Saw a few online news articles today saying that Sig 320’s are going off without their triggers being touched. I don’t remember anything about this being discussed around here before today? I figured I would have read about it on the fire before hearing about it on CNN? Anybody here have a 320?
So you finally got around to reading 2 year old articles and thought you should post about it?

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Originally Posted by dla
Originally Posted by Huntingfool270
Saw a few online news articles today saying that Sig 320’s are going off without their triggers being touched. I don’t remember anything about this being discussed around here before today? I figured I would have read about it on the fire before hearing about it on CNN? Anybody here have a 320?
So you finally got around to reading 2 year old articles and thought you should post about it?

I’m assuming he’s referring to the one I read that was published yesterday

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Originally Posted by Huntingfool270
Saw a few online news articles today saying that Sig 320’s are going off without their triggers being touched. I don’t remember anything about this being discussed around here before today? I figured I would have read about it on the fire before hearing about it on CNN? Anybody here have a 320?
So you finally got around to reading 2 year old articles and thought you should post about it?

I’m assuming he’s referring to the one I read that was published yesterday

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/04/11/sig-sauer-p320-fires-on-own/

I must say it interests me a bit, as I’m right in the midst of feeling like I finally found a gem of a handgun in the new tacops version of the p365. Not sure but I’d guess the 365 and 320 share similar designs in the trigger chassis.

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The new trigger assembly is reported to be going off also but far fewer then original assembly? No plaintiff has been able to replicate the gun firing? Most were holstering resulting in shots to leg/hip area? This info is second hand so....

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Once the "stink is on" in Gun World, it takes a long time to wear off.
For example, "Glock Leg" phenomenon has for the most part worn off, but some Glock Haters will still bring it up from time to time.

Thus far in these P320 lawsuits, the findings are improper gun handling, playing with the gun, letting the gun slosh around in a purse, gun is loose in a pocket, defective holster, holster fouled with shirt tail or other foreign object, etc

At the end of the day, some people should not carry a pistol that does not have a Manual Safety. The lawsuits bear this out.
Hundreds of thousands of P320s with Manual Safeties are fielded by our military and we don't see any of these "self discharging" P320 stories coming in from the military.

Some of these AD/ND reports may have been written the way they were to avoid embarrassment, reprimand and/or termination of employment.


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