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If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
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Time to lower those objectives and print more money... I mean tags.
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I may not get a cow tag in unit 4 this year.
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Seems like a good time to throw wolves into the mix.
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I have 26 preference points for elk and didn't even try for the Unit 2 tag.
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I may not get a cow tag in unit 4 this year. After talking to a couple of CODOW in Steamboat and Meeker, if I was betting prob not. I didn't even apply for GMU 4 for that reason.
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I have nothing against tag numbers being reduced. Mother Nature had her say this winter and the moisture is appreciated. Be great if it it was the out of state tags that were cut, but, but, but, a $700 tag is a lot of money to lose. The area has been significantly overrun with hunters for a long time now, 40% less hunters isn't a bad thing.
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I have nothing against tag numbers being reduced. Mother Nature had her say this winter and the moisture is appreciated. Be great if it it was the out of state tags that were cut, but, but, but, a $700 tag is a lot of money to lose. The area has been significantly overrun with hunters for a long time now, 40% less hunters isn't a bad thing. No cuts to OTC tags though. NR's will pick them up instead and then bitch about no elk. Residents like me will bitch about the poor wildlife management or lack there of by CPW. I will be going though, mostly for the fall camping trip.
If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
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I have nothing against tag numbers being reduced. Mother Nature had her say this winter and the moisture is appreciated. Be great if it it was the out of state tags that were cut, but, but, but, a $700 tag is a lot of money to lose. The area has been significantly overrun with hunters for a long time now, 40% less hunters isn't a bad thing. No cuts to OTC tags though. NR's will pick them up instead and then bitch about no elk. Residents like me will bitch about the poor wildlife management or lack there of by CPW. I will be going though, mostly for the fall camping trip. I think this is spot on for both residents and nonres.
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
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CPW sent out an email yesterday saying tags in the NW area have been drastically reduced. It's one week before they supposed to drawn. I've personally known that tags were going to be reduced thanks to many people here and I'm fine with it. Kinda. I'm fine with it from the standpoint it's good for the wildlife. No issues there. I'm not fine with it from the standpoint that most of the general public did not receive this information until a week before the lottery. Like seriously WTF? This is like putting a road closed sign up directly in front of a missing bridge and the nearest detour is 30 miles behind you. It does zero good to have the information at that point. Tell me earlier so I can adjust my plans accordingly. They knew in March the winter was bad. I, as well as thousands of other people, could have adjusted our first pick for tags to another unit and it would have been a win win. Animals get to recover, and I get a chance at a drawn tag in another unit. Now, it's just a wasted first pick...and yes I know, I get a PP - so does everyone else, so it really means nothing. We all will have +1 point for next year. And for which seasons they are reducing tags...and out of state vs. in state, that's whole different set of disgustingness.
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Their excuse was it had to pass thru the CPW Commissioner first on May 1 I think it was. Still, bulletins were sent out earlier, but as you mentioned only a week before the deadline to apply. I emailed them as soon as I heard about it and they said OTC tags would not be affected.Only 1st season, 4th and any late hunts.
They knew darn well early,but they were not going to advertise strongly because then they would lose license sales.
I am in the same boat, as I sent my application in a few weeks before the deadline Being 80years old, I am not interested in points
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It was up to a 40% reduction, now I think it's 10 cow tags total.
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It was up to a 40% reduction, now I think it's 10 cow tags total. They stated they had to keep the minimum to accommodate youth and a couple other groups
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I drew a tag for unit 214. Hopefully some elk around there this fall.
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It was up to a 40% reduction, now I think it's 10 cow tags total. They stated they had to keep the minimum to accommodate youth and a couple other groups That makes no sense. They always tout the fact that herd management is driven by the science, not politics.
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CPW is just protecting their revenue stream. Go read up on what an “Enterprise Agency” entails. It’s about the money and their jobs.
I’m just glad to be able to go hunt elk with friends that I don’t usually see apart from elk hunting. There have been years in the past that I failed to draw deer tags and season that I didn’t get an elk, but I went hunting in the Rockies with friends and that matters. Our original crew from around 2005 is down to 2 but we have 5 “new” regulars and that’s good!
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I’m just glad to be able to go hunt elk with friends that I don’t usually see apart from elk hunting. There have been years in the past that I failed to draw deer tags and season that I didn’t get an elk, but I went hunting in the Rockies with friends and that matters. Our original crew from around 2005 is down to 2 but we have 5 “new” regulars and that’s good! I know exactly how you feel, my long term hunting buddy, who I really miss hunting with, can't go anymore, the other had been taking treatments for cancer and is pretty weak and that looks marginal. My brother who hunted with me for years passed away last fall. I am just barely hanging on myself, but did draw a deer tag and a ML cow tag
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Couldn’t have typed it better, myself. I’m just glad to be able to go hunt elk with friends that I don’t usually see apart from elk hunting. There have been years in the past that I failed to draw deer tags and season that I didn’t get an elk, but I went hunting in the Rockies with friends and that matters. Our original crew from around 2005 is down to 2 but we have 5 “new” regulars and that’s good!
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