All the 1/2" rifles won't win many if any benchrest shoots. Then again all the 1/4"- bench rest rifles in the world won't do you as well as a 308W w/200gr bullet facing a pissed off Grizzly! Pretty much any cartridge can kill a big game animal at 500yds if YOU can place the bullet right! Then again you can watch any animal run off at any distance if you miss, regardless what your shooting!
Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?
Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.
Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......
Dear Macho Man Randy Savage, The military has been using the 6.5 Crapmoor in sniper rifles. I agree with you on the 7.62 rounds in machine guns. M240s are superb in the feeding department, and might be decidedly less so with a steeper shouldered round. Signed, Guy who sent a few rounds downrange with 7.62 chambered rifles and machine guns
I wondered if/when someone might point out that fact concerning the Creedmoor.
There are no flies on either chambering as far as I'm concerned.
Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?
Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.
Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......
Dear Macho Man Randy Savage, The military has been using the 6.5 Crapmoor in sniper rifles. I agree with you on the 7.62 rounds in machine guns. M240s are superb in the feeding department, and might be decidedly less so with a steeper shouldered round. Signed, Guy who sent a few rounds downrange with 7.62 chambered rifles and machine guns
I wondered if/when someone might point out that fact concerning the Creedmoor.
There are no flies on either chambering as far as I'm concerned.
All of you have overlooked one very important detail:
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I am pleased this thread came up. I have never gotton the accuracy that many here post with the 308 and figured I must be doing something wrong. I have 3 pre 64 1 Remington 700 and one Winchester classic and one number 4 mk 1 converted from 303 to 308. I have bought lapua brass Redding competition dies tried all the accuracy loads and have basically failed to reach the one inch mark consistently. usually 1 1/2 inch. .I am able to shoot well with my 3006, one inch or less, my 270, my 2506 and my 7mm08, the last two about5/8 of an inch. so I basically give-up or figured that the groups shrank as they hit the typewriter.
If you can't group 1" regularly with a 308 I don't believe it's the cartridge that's the problem. I didn't use a typewriter to shoot the groups i posted above.
If you can't group 1" regularly with a 308 I don't believe it's the cartridge that's the problem. I didn't use a typewriter to shoot the groups i posted above.
+1
Have quite a few, and only my Win M100 carbine won't do it. Most have done it with minimal effort.
I wouldn't say 308 is overrated. It's proven to be quite accurate, and my personal use has show the same. But I will say it has been surpassed by 6.5 CM.
Most people don't really want the truth.
They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
Any guys on here actually serve their country in some foreign sht hole, and see first hand, the 7.62 feed flawlessly from machine guns?
Fk the creedmoor. Bench rest creations have little to do with what makes a great hunting cartridge.
Any gunwriter claiming the creedmoor is a better cartridge, should join the fkn Army or Marines, as the spoiled fk probably has too much time on his hands.......
Dear Macho Man Randy Savage, The military has been using the 6.5 Crapmoor in sniper rifles. I agree with you on the 7.62 rounds in machine guns. M240s are superb in the feeding department, and might be decidedly less so with a steeper shouldered round. Signed, Guy who sent a few rounds downrange with 7.62 chambered rifles and machine guns
There are some M110-based 6.5 Creedmoor rifles in service. They've also be notably more finicky than the .308 Winchesters. I've even read some units sourced .260 Remington barrels because they were more reliable.
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My tactical .308 is the most accurate rifle I ever owned. It's not my primary hunter because of its weight, but nothing i ever owned was/is more accurate. I fussed with it for months when I first bought it, to get below .250 with 3 and 5 shot groups. Several different brands of bullets, cases and powder finally all came together, and now consistent 100 yard groups under .250 are routine and 1.00 groups at 300 yards are common. My best load is the 168 grain CC, with 43.5 grains of RL-15 using WW, cases. Going to mess with some Lapua cases this summer just to see what happens. For coyotes I use a 150 grain soft nose as the CC's slide right through
drop point, Please give an example of a ,260 barrel being more reliable than a 6.5 CM barrel?? Rio7
The case taper and shoulder angle are the same as .308 Winchester, which the magazines and feed lips were designed for. As Mathman points out, it is feeding better. As for an example, it is literally what I posted; 6.5 Creedmoors have had some problems leading to some units adopting .260 Remington. I don't have any articles pointing to that, but was based on conversations I had read from people more in the know than I am.
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