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Well said memtb. You can tell folks who have been there and done that vs. the internet warriors.
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I'm really shocked a thread about calibers and bears went south....lol
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you don't need a cannon to hunt anywhere on earth
until you need one & don't have one .......
Bears are easy too kill, until they're not .....
last spring I went solo black bear hunting with a 300 RUM & 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets along with a 500 S&W on my side as backup
90% of the campfire members will scoff at my choices as overkill = too much recoil, too heavy, barrels too long etc, etc ....
Had I listened to the idiots & their worthless advice, I'd be spread out across the wilderness as fertilizer for the coming spring growth
I was 100% fortunate to have had the 300 RUM and the 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets when the griz charged me out of thick brush at 13-14 yards, the first shot dumped it just long enough for a killing follow up shot and then an insurance shot
According to most of you, the fkn 6.5 Creedmoor or 270 Win is all you need for black bear & a magnum is not necessary, & there again .... until you do !
Hunting with a guide or two backing you up is the puzzy way of hunting, come here and do it solo for 40 years like I have and your cartridge choices will be very similar to mine .... bet on it Yawn.... Appears as if you think this is another thread about ol swampy. From someone’s who’s most dangerous wildlife encounter was a Honey Bee in his flower garden! memtb Many apologies, I didn't mean to upset his butthole buddy....! Go back to your flower garden…..this forum is for hunters/shooters! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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you don't need a cannon to hunt anywhere on earth
until you need one & don't have one .......
Bears are easy too kill, until they're not .....
last spring I went solo black bear hunting with a 300 RUM & 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets along with a 500 S&W on my side as backup
90% of the campfire members will scoff at my choices as overkill = too much recoil, too heavy, barrels too long etc, etc ....
Had I listened to the idiots & their worthless advice, I'd be spread out across the wilderness as fertilizer for the coming spring growth
I was 100% fortunate to have had the 300 RUM and the 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets when the griz charged me out of thick brush at 13-14 yards, the first shot dumped it just long enough for a killing follow up shot and then an insurance shot
According to most of you, the fkn 6.5 Creedmoor or 270 Win is all you need for black bear & a magnum is not necessary, & there again .... until you do !
Hunting with a guide or two backing you up is the puzzy way of hunting, come here and do it solo for 40 years like I have and your cartridge choices will be very similar to mine .... bet on it Yawn.... Appears as if you think this is another thread about ol swampy. From someone’s who’s most dangerous wildlife encounter was a Honey Bee in his flower garden! memtb Many apologies, I didn't mean to upset his butthole buddy....! Go back to your flower garden…..this forum is for hunters/shooters! memtb I think she has a rifle, I remember where she kept claiming that her 30-06 was a better Caliber than the 300 RUM, lmao ! Gundummies are dumb but it's ok, they don't know it, they can be funny though .... looking
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you don't need a cannon to hunt anywhere on earth
until you need one & don't have one .......
Bears are easy too kill, until they're not .....
last spring I went solo black bear hunting with a 300 RUM & 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets along with a 500 S&W on my side as backup
90% of the campfire members will scoff at my choices as overkill = too much recoil, too heavy, barrels too long etc, etc ....
Had I listened to the idiots & their worthless advice, I'd be spread out across the wilderness as fertilizer for the coming spring growth
I was 100% fortunate to have had the 300 RUM and the 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets when the griz charged me out of thick brush at 13-14 yards, the first shot dumped it just long enough for a killing follow up shot and then an insurance shot
According to most of you, the fkn 6.5 Creedmoor or 270 Win is all you need for black bear & a magnum is not necessary, & there again .... until you do !
Hunting with a guide or two backing you up is the puzzy way of hunting, come here and do it solo for 40 years like I have and your cartridge choices will be very similar to mine .... bet on it Yawn.... Appears as if you think this is another thread about ol swampy. From someone’s who’s most dangerous wildlife encounter was a Honey Bee in his flower garden! memtb Many apologies, I didn't mean to upset his butthole buddy....! Go back to your flower garden…..this forum is for hunters/shooters! memtb I think she has a rifle, I remember where she kept claiming that her 30-06 was a better Caliber than the 300 RUM, lmao ! Gundummies are dumb but it's ok, they don't know it, they can be funny though .... looking Now, its a dick measuring contest.. I dont even own a 06, reading... hmmm. I do recall you bragging about shooting something from the next island over.... Maybe, Cuz yer too lazy too walk & stalk. Just another blowhard and his fanboi.
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How about ya learn how to shoot a rifle properly ?then you wouldn't have to get within 100 yards so you could actually hit it
Learning takes a bit of time though, too lazy to learn ? or just too dumb ?
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I know how and have done so, I just dont feel the need to brag about it on the internet. Now days I am more interested in getting up close with some old rifles with open sights.
However I am not telling everyone thats how they need to hunt.
I wouldn't recommend everyone take up long distance hunting, personally that is some very unethical advice. Maybe you can, kudos quit bashing other hunters.
Oh are you short like Larry...?
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Perhaps slightly relevant to this thread. I was guiding some Moose hunters, from the Detroit Free Press. We were camped near "Battle Lake" on the Alaska Peninsula. At the headwater of the McNeil River (BROWN BEAR SANTUARY). I had seven Brown Bears in camp all night. Two sows, one with two cubs other with three cubs. It was a very long RAINY night.
ALASKA is a "HARD COUNTRY for OLDMEN". (But if you live it wide'ass open, balls'to the wall, the pedal floored, full throttle, it is a delightful place, to finally just sit-back and savor those memories while sipping Tequila).
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you don't need a cannon to hunt anywhere on earth
until you need one & don't have one .......
Bears are easy too kill, until they're not .....
last spring I went solo black bear hunting with a 300 RUM & 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets along with a 500 S&W on my side as backup
90% of the campfire members will scoff at my choices as overkill = too much recoil, too heavy, barrels too long etc, etc ....
Had I listened to the idiots & their worthless advice, I'd be spread out across the wilderness as fertilizer for the coming spring growth
I was 100% fortunate to have had the 300 RUM and the 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets when the griz charged me out of thick brush at 13-14 yards, the first shot dumped it just long enough for a killing follow up shot and then an insurance shot
According to most of you, the fkn 6.5 Creedmoor or 270 Win is all you need for black bear & a magnum is not necessary, & there again .... until you do !
Hunting with a guide or two backing you up is the puzzy way of hunting, come here and do it solo for 40 years like I have and your cartridge choices will be very similar to mine .... bet on it Yawn.... Appears as if you think this is another thread about ol swampy. From someone’s who’s most dangerous wildlife encounter was a Honey Bee in his flower garden! memtb Many apologies, I didn't mean to upset his butthole buddy....! Go back to your flower garden…..this forum is for hunters/shooters! memtb I think she has a rifle, I remember where she kept claiming that her 30-06 was a better Caliber than the 300 RUM, lmao ! Gundummies are dumb but it's ok, they don't know it, they can be funny though .... looking Now, its a dick measuring contest.. I dont even own a 06, reading... hmmm. I do recall you bragging about shooting something from the next island over.... Maybe, Cuz yer too lazy too walk & stalk. Just another blowhard and his fanboi. You do seem to have a fixation on members of the same gender! Perhaps you could be taken more seriously if you advanced beyond the childish homosexual remarks! memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
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Well memtb for a guy who uses a 375 on everything maybe you ought to just let it go. Your wife only uses a 338 do you have to clean up her crips?..mb
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Geez, I must have been suicidal hunting moose with a longbow and a 10mm backup. I was starting to feel like King Kong because this year I'm trading the 10mm for a little short Tac 14 WITSEC gun but now it appears I should be afraid to leave my house or walk my neighborhood without a shoulder fired cannon. :>) Yep. The old story just keeps on going and giving. Factual information flies out the window in favor of ego. OTOH, it's a great comedy, and it keeps on giving👍 How's the scouting going, Archer? 😎
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Well memtb for a guy who uses a 375 on everything maybe you ought to just let it go. Your wife only uses a 338 do you have to clean up her crips?..mb “crips”? 🤔 Do you mean cripples? If so, I’ll put her shooting abilities against many on this forum! memtb
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You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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Yeah I meant cripples, you've implied nothing less than a 375 can get it done yet your wife shoots a 338 which led me to believe that her 338 won't allways get it done. So what is it? I am not questioning her marksmanship. She is obviously a better shot than you if she never makes a poor shot and her record is all 1 shot and done as well as no cripples. With only a 338 amazing. A lot of folks get their killing done with whatever they use and most don't rely on Magnum performance but their own marksmanship abilities. Be my guess that Alaskan moose hunting is the one place that encountering a grizzly while moose hunting is the norm not the exception. I don't know but I'd bet not all Alaskans carry 375's moose hunting. I for one would enjoy hearing what normal ordinary Alaskans use for moose hunting not Alaskan guides whose responsibility is to clean up after sports with more money than shooting ability. No.need for you to get upset with me I believe people should use what they want...mb
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One might need to consider the appropriate bore size to carry when visiting the Homer Hospital. My neighbor sent me a snapshot of 4 blackies sunning themselves on the hill behind.
Not to hijack the thread but, we had to stop the truck and let two caribou cows cross the road at Fred Meyers in Soldotna yesterday. Made my day.
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We’ve forgotten years ago it was a 30-06, a 12 gauge, and a colt woodsman. I don’t believe there was a lot of thought was given about what if when putting up meat.
A lot of hunting rifles were purchased from what ever the hardware store had on the shelves at the end of fishing season.
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"purchased from what ever the hardware store had"
I remember 8mm Mausers in a barrel at the hardware store starting at $29.99. 6.5 cal. Sweds were not much more.
Oh [bleep], I am now one of Those old guys....
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you don't need a cannon to hunt anywhere on earth
until you need one & don't have one .......
Bears are easy too kill, until they're not .....
last spring I went solo black bear hunting with a 300 RUM & 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets along with a 500 S&W on my side as backup
90% of the campfire members will scoff at my choices as overkill = too much recoil, too heavy, barrels too long etc, etc ....
Had I listened to the idiots & their worthless advice, I'd be spread out across the wilderness as fertilizer for the coming spring growth
I was 100% fortunate to have had the 300 RUM and the 190 gr Barnes LRX bullets when the griz charged me out of thick brush at 13-14 yards, the first shot dumped it just long enough for a killing follow up shot and then an insurance shot
According to most of you, the fkn 6.5 Creedmoor or 270 Win is all you need for black bear & a magnum is not necessary, & there again .... until you do !
Hunting with a guide or two backing you up is the puzzy way of hunting, come here and do it solo for 40 years like I have and your cartridge choices will be very similar to mine .... bet on it Not everyone can hunt without a guide... duh... Its why I have a job...Not everyone wants to move to AK. Thankfully. I"m glad they let me in when they did. Grins. But yeah, there are so many different ways to do it all. Most have never and never will have to shoot a charging bear. It just doesn't happen that often. Until it does. I can't pack a 500 SW. Recoil is to strong for my tastes. I can however put the whole mag of the 10mm on target quickly and it kills fine on everything its pointed at so far. Carry what you can and want to. Just pick good bullets and put them where they need to be. You are bad azz too. A blind charge out of the blue that close gives extremely little time to get a weapon into place. Almost no time. And then to luck off and hit the right spot to slow it down. Even with medium gun it won't stun the bear with a hit anywhere. Typically. Good job What cartridge do you prefer as your backup rifle while guiding clients? I will play the game because. Moose. Almost anything I have. First bull this year I had a 9mm in my waders. Yes we are in grizzly country. Not in brown country though. My normal is 338-06 210 TTSX Its enough and not too much Although this is a moose thread my backup as a brown bear guide is a 458 win mag and 350 TSX bullets. I never carry both a handgun and a rifle. One or the other. Just how I roll. Once the kill happens on other than Brown Bear I'm down to a handgun of some flavor. 9 or 10 mm. 44 mag reduced loads. 460 Rowland. 3 months of the summer in technical brown bear country mixed with blacks, 10mm every day unless going more wooly country and then sometimes I revert to the 460.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Yeah I meant cripples, you've implied nothing less than a 375 can get it done yet your wife shoots a 338 which led me to believe that her 338 won't allways get it done. So what is it? I am not questioning her marksmanship. She is obviously a better shot than you if she never makes a poor shot and her record is all 1 shot and done as well as no cripples. With only a 338 amazing. A lot of folks get their killing done with whatever they use and most don't rely on Magnum performance but their own marksmanship abilities. Be my guess that Alaskan moose hunting is the one place that encountering a grizzly while moose hunting is the norm not the exception. I don't know but I'd bet not all Alaskans carry 375's moose hunting. I for one would enjoy hearing what normal ordinary Alaskans use for moose hunting not Alaskan guides whose responsibility is to clean up after sports with more money than shooting ability. No.need for you to get upset with me I believe people should use what they want...mb When not guiding for years I hunted with a 30-30. Yes Barnes makes 30-30 bullets grins First moose was with a 338/378 though. It worked. Moose ran off a bit and died. I've taken with 308 also and lord forbid a jacketed bullet on top of that. LOL. I've had a couple clients with 308 win and all moose died and plenty fast for my tastes. I've had a lot more ask about 308 and similiar non mag rounds. I just say be zero'd in. Be a good shooter. Use a mono bullet. We will be just fine. What do I see of other hunters of moose not guided and not guides? Pretty common for 30-06 and 300 mags. The more knowledgable the hunters often the smaller the round. I know one that used 375. Know one that used a 62? caliber cap lock. I've not seen 223. 243. Usually starts somewhere around 260. Ranges up to about 338 mag. I've seen the X39 a few times of course. Guided hunters? Not that you asked... and I would think the same way. Fly. Money. Once in lifetime. Etc... take a big gun for whatever angle and range I'm capable of. May only get one chance. a few 7 mags. a few smaller such as the 308. Have not seen an 06 but likely thats due to reading too much and not just going with it. A lot of 30 cal mags. Quite a few in the 338 realm. Not so many 375. 6.5 PRC is around now.. and I said long ago it should be 7 PRC which is around too. Above 375 I've not seen on moose so far. OTOH I have no doubts my 458 win mag would work on a moose.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I know how and have done so, I just dont feel the need to brag about it on the internet. Now days I am more interested in getting up close with some old rifles with open sights. However I am not telling everyone thats how they need to hunt.
I wouldn't recommend everyone take up long distance hunting, personally that is some very unethical advice. Maybe you can, kudos quit bashing other hunters. Oh are you short like Larry...? Jeezes John. What would they say if they knew you were bigger in size than Jim Conrad but stay in decent shape? That you like to hunt with your Hoyt or your Kimber Montana. That you have a murderers row of hunting partners that get after it year after year. That you had the courage to tell a bunch of UAF Lez and homo Admins to pound sand our of their Vginas and got a great legal settlement out of standing up to them. That you drive big rock trucks for the fun of it because you really don't need to work. That your wife is one of the most successful realtors in Fairbanks and you could be retired but you like to work. You go hunting all over the state and are not afraid of bears. Pretty successful but that you don't brag about it. Most people up here git it when bros from Fish and Feathers are jockeying to be your hunting partners.
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I know how and have done so, I just dont feel the need to brag about it on the internet. Now days I am more interested in getting up close with some old rifles with open sights. However I am not telling everyone thats how they need to hunt.
I wouldn't recommend everyone take up long distance hunting, personally that is some very unethical advice. Maybe you can, kudos quit bashing other hunters. Oh are you short like Larry...? Jeezes John. What would they say if they knew you were bigger in size than Jim Conrad but stay in decent shape? That you like to hunt with your Hoyt or your Kimber Montana. That you have a murderers row of hunting partners that get after it year after year. That you had the courage to tell a bunch of UAF Lez and homo Admins to pound sand our of their Vginas and got a great legal settlement out of standing up to them. That you drive big rock trucks for the fun of it because you really don't need to work. That your wife is one of the most successful realtors in Fairbanks and you could be retired but you like to work. You go hunting all over the state and are not afraid of bears. Pretty successful but that you don't brag about it. Most people up here git it when bros from Fish and Feathers are jockeying to be your hunting partners. Lol
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