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The latest trendy trend from Injun country is the MMIP crisis. Big money being allocated. Since it's your money, you are owed an explanation of what MMIP is...quite simply: murdered or missing indigenous persons. And truthfully, the stats are bad, horrible...per capita the numbers exceed smallpox blankets and the US Army. It is a tragedy. So, some LEO types said, we can be a lot more effective if we have a tribal DNA base to work off of (notice that 'effective' in LEO lingo means ID'ing bodies, not preventing deaths), ie, solve rate goes up. But the Injuns quickly figured out, that if LEO has a DNA base, a LOT of all kinds of cases are going to be solved, and bad boys are going to jail. So the rank and file Injuns don't want to get their DNA on file. This pisses off the tribal leader cliques who want the big money grants to create a whole new MMIP bureaucracy. Smoke signals say big trouble.
IMO, living in Injun country for most of my life, it's not about one particular race...it's about a whole drug/alcohol lifestyle endemic to the region, Injun or whitey or meskin or Hmong. If you are even a little interested, there is a Netflix series called "Murder Mountain", pretty well nails down the emerald triangle scene...you only need watch the first 2 or 3 episodes to get the picture. This info update courtesy of lying dogface pony sojer flintlocke.

I think in Montana where my blood is from the two reservations I know of are pretty much at the mercy of the tribal council. What they decide is the rule tho not always enforced.
Outside the res people do not hear about all the crime within nor the lack of enforcement.

There are more young, especially young ladies who go missing than most know and more of the cause is from within the Rez than will be admitted to.

Osky

That program won't work in Alabama- - - - -the DNA is all the same, and there are no dental records!

Maybe, for whatever reason, instead of the Injuns not wanting crimes solved perhaps they have some unfounded reasons not to trust the White Man and his DNA data base collection services.....

It's actually all bullschit, check the records, Native Americans are no more subject to be murdered or missing than the next race.


Well one race stands out, guess which one..

Jeff, what you say about blacks is true. However, the highest per capita murder rate in America was/maybe still is, Blackfoot Idaho. Why? The rez. A couple of things affect the stats. Small population. A few murders a year is all that’s necessary to make that rate go through the roof. And if you have been to a rez, they’re all pretty much the same. Awash in government money that the leadership steals. The rest live in third world conditions and have massive amounts of free time on their hands so drug abuse and all that goes with it are rampant. Same chit as goes on in the inner cities of Chicago, Detroit, NY.

LoL. Good one Hotrod.

Are you just reading that from a story that promotes the idea or do you know that as a fact in Idaho?

I've researched it in AK and MT and found the claims to be far from the facts.

Excuse my ninja edit! My wife was a Police Officer in Idaho. They had to deal with the drug problems as they crossed reservation boundaries with the dealers going back and forth. The tribes don’t like white cops interfering and there was more than once that a local officer was arrested for crossing the rez line. In fact, they hate that more than the drugs. Almost like a version of Longmire.

Another part of the problem is if someone goes missing on the rez and it’s not reported, there’s no statistic.

This, in spades

That is very similar to Montana.

Lots of unreported crime, no outside authorities allowed but still the numbers of Native people murdered and missing is much the same or less than White/Hispanic peoples.

I found it to be a cash drive for a program looking into a non-existent issue.

Alaska pushes big claims, specifically about female Native murdered/missing like it's some sort of dark mystery.

The Native women just willingly place themselves into dangerous environments, but the murdered and missing overall don't add up to being as outlandishly different than anyone else.

flintlocke,

if possible, Tribal "politics" might be worse to deal with than out here in Whitey Land.

I don't blame them folks for not wanting to give up DNA, innocent or not.

Not true if we are talking young, pretty girls.


Young pretty girls on reservations tend to disappear.

Often and easily said, but the facts don't align.

The most dangerous thing to an Indian woman is an Indian man. But they try to portray it as white on Indian violence.

I'm white as white can be and I don't want the .gov anywhere near my DNA.

Maybe but them boys have their issues too.

Not only does the race thing not add up, neither does the male/female claims.

Former Indian Health Service pediatrician Stanley Patrick Weber abused patients in Montana and South Dakota between 1995 and 2011


RAPID CITY, S.D.—An Indian Health Service pediatrician who was convicted of sexually abusing young Native American boys in his care over two decades and became an emblem of the federal agency’s long-term failures was sentenced Monday to five lifetime prison terms.

Stanley Patrick Weber, 71, groomed and abused Native American boys as young as about 9 years old on reservations in Montana and South Dakota between 1995 and 2011

https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctor...ms-for-sexually-abusing-boys-11581383875

I shouldn't be laughing as hard as I am.

True, this was a tragedy. You wonder how something like this could go on that long before it was discovered.

5 life sentences was a little soft I think.

I bet there's some form of punishment handed down in the oral traditions of those Tribes that could serve justice better.