Been a while back, the Idaho fish & game claim black bears are a majority of elk calf mortality in the St. Joe drainage.... Course, that was before the introduction of wolves. Federally funded and educated Biologists hard at work ya know....
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I remember AK F&G doing a study many years ago. I think bears (mostly black) killed way more moose & caribou calves than wolves. An eye opener for a lot of people.
Black bears are expert at skinning moose calves.
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I remember AK F&G doing a study many years ago. I think bears (mostly black) killed way more moose & caribou calves than wolves. An eye opener for a lot of people.
Black bears are expert at skinning moose calves.
Well, in a 3 year study of Moose calf mortality on the Kenai Peninsula, it was determined that 90% of the annual mortality was via Brown bear. Around 3% were Wolves and Black bears respectively, with the remainder undetermined or given "natural causes" status.
I am certain that places with larger populations of Black bears would see them replace Brown/Grizzly bear as the larger number in a similar study. With that said, Art is correct on his post as regards the efficiency of Brown bear's capabilities...
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Bear in mind this about predators. They don't hunt for sport!
If I understand your post correctly, I respectfully disagree. Wolves are very clearly known to kill for sport. Ive seen small herds of elk killed in deep snow in the Lochsa River valley.. calves pulled out, cows struggling.
Have you never seen a cat play with a mouse?
Honestly , if killing is your MO why wouldn't you practice?
[quote=VernAK]Yes.....black bears are equally bad on calves.
I remember AK F&G doing a study many years ago. I think bears (mostly black) killed way more moose & caribou calves than wolves. An eye opener for a lot of people.
Black bears are expert at skinning moose calves.
Well, in a 3 year study of Moose calf mortality on the Kenai Peninsula, it was determined that 90% of the annual mortality was via Brown bear. Around 3% were Wolves and Black bears respectively, with the remainder undetermined or given "natural causes" status.
Do you have any more info on this study? I'd like to read some more about it. Thanks.
Bear in mind this about predators. They don't hunt for sport!
ALL predators will kill for sport, I've seen pictures/story of coyotes killing 20-30 sheep, bobcats killing several baby turkeys, coyote/bobcats/fox/coons/possum/++ will kill 50-100 chickens if given the chance. Bears/wolves/cougars/+ will do the same thing, it's been documented many many times.
Stuck in the Rut guys have watched bears kill elk calves and not eat a bite. 1:46 minute.
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I'd like to meet the guy who strapped the go pro on the bear.
I was about to say the same.
I would also like to know how that guy removed the GO Pro and retreived the video because they ain't satellite connected.
Of all the large critters out there bears are the hardest to keep even a telemetry collar on for very long. If bear doesn't like the collar they quickly find a way to remove it. The smaller the telementry unit the better. Can't imagine a peice of gear the size and fragility (even in a case) of a Go Pro lasting more than a day.......
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
Bear in mind this about predators. They don't hunt for sport!
ALL predators will kill for sport, I've seen pictures/story of coyotes killing 20-30 sheep, bobcats killing several baby turkeys, coyote/bobcats/fox/coons/possum/++ will kill 50-100 chickens if given the chance. Bears/wolves/cougars/+ will do the same thing, it's been documented many many times.
Stuck in the Rut guys have watched bears kill elk calves and not eat a bite. 1:46 minute.
While I don't disagree that they do kill just for the hell of it, the bear in that video did'nt eat the calf because he was spooked away by the hunters.
I would have been in trouble because I would have dropped the bear on the spot, 338 win mag and 225 Barnes TTSX.I know it’s nature, but it would make me feel better pasting that big bastard.
I would have been in trouble because I would have dropped the bear on the spot, 338 win mag and 225 Barnes TTSX.I know it’s nature, but it would make me feel better pasting that big bastard.
