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It's more correct to refer to Russia's ambitions as "influence expansion". And the U.S.A. has handed that to Russia in spades. There's a New World Order being built as a result of the actions of the crazies who control the U.S. government. The U.S.A. won't be included in it. Russian history would show them to be a large nation mostly isolationist and subject to designs on their territory by the Western European powers. So naturally after their experience with Napoleon and WW1 and WW2 they desired to set up buffer states under their control. Hence the Warsaw pact. And their crash program to develop nuclear weapons and their financing of proxy wars to keep the west broke and busy. A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. Poor Russia. Just wanted to be left alone, the only country in Europe with no ambition. So, if by your contention other countries in Europe have ambitions as well, why should we take sides?
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It's more correct to refer to Russia's ambitions as "influence expansion". And the U.S.A. has handed that to Russia in spades. There's a New World Order being built as a result of the actions of the crazies who control the U.S. government. The U.S.A. won't be included in it. Russian history would show them to be a large nation mostly isolationist and subject to designs on their territory by the Western European powers. So naturally after their experience with Napoleon and WW1 and WW2 they desired to set up buffer states under their control. Hence the Warsaw pact. And their crash program to develop nuclear weapons and their financing of proxy wars to keep the west broke and busy. A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. Poor Russia. Just wanted to be left alone, the only country in Europe with no ambition. So, if by your contention other countries in Europe have ambitions as well, why should we take sides? Fair question. We should do our best to support what is in out best interest. Of course, what that is, and is not, is subject to debate. In the Ukraine situation, I think it is in the entire world's best interest that nations not invade each other and that they honor their treaties. Russia guaranteed Ukraine's territorial sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons they inherited from the USSR. We want less nuclear proliferation, and we want stable borders. So, we should oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That does not mean we have to send in troops, but it can include supporting Ukraine. That's my basic answer to your question. If we don't take sides, we might see another expansionist juggernaut like Hitler or Stalin or even Napoleon. We need to minimize invasions. I am not anti-Russian at all, but I oppose Putin's revanchism and adventurism. He wants to recreate the geopolitical place the USSR occupied, in his own image, and he intends to do so at the US's expense, but not through diplomacy. Others may disagree, but you asked me why, and there it is, in summary.
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It's more correct to refer to Russia's ambitions as "influence expansion". And the U.S.A. has handed that to Russia in spades. There's a New World Order being built as a result of the actions of the crazies who control the U.S. government. The U.S.A. won't be included in it. Russian history would show them to be a large nation mostly isolationist and subject to designs on their territory by the Western European powers. So naturally after their experience with Napoleon and WW1 and WW2 they desired to set up buffer states under their control. Hence the Warsaw pact. And their crash program to develop nuclear weapons and their financing of proxy wars to keep the west broke and busy. A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. Poor Russia. Just wanted to be left alone, the only country in Europe with no ambition. So, if by your contention other countries in Europe have ambitions as well, why should we take sides? Fair question. We should do our best to support what is in out best interest. Of course, what that is, and is not, is subject to debate. In the Ukraine situation, I think it is in the entire world's best interest that nations not invade each other and that they honor their treaties. Russia guaranteed Ukraine's territorial sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons they inherited from the USSR. We want less nuclear proliferation, and we want stable borders. So, we should oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That does not mean we have to send in troops, but it can include supporting Ukraine. That's my basic answer to your question. If we don't take sides, we might see another expansionist juggernaut like Hitler or Stalin or even Napoleon. We need to minimize invasions. I am not anti-Russian at all, but I oppose Putin's revanchism and adventurism. we need to minimize invasions? Would our invasion of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, bombing of Libya, and Sebis count? Would our need to see treaties enforced include the Minsk Accords which were violated daily by Ukrainian shelling of the Donbass for eight years and which Angela Merkel admitted were merely to buy time for Ukraine to build up its military?
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It's more correct to refer to Russia's ambitions as "influence expansion". And the U.S.A. has handed that to Russia in spades. There's a New World Order being built as a result of the actions of the crazies who control the U.S. government. The U.S.A. won't be included in it. Russian history would show them to be a large nation mostly isolationist and subject to designs on their territory by the Western European powers. So naturally after their experience with Napoleon and WW1 and WW2 they desired to set up buffer states under their control. Hence the Warsaw pact. And their crash program to develop nuclear weapons and their financing of proxy wars to keep the west broke and busy. A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. Poor Russia. Just wanted to be left alone, the only country in Europe with no ambition. So, if by your contention other countries in Europe have ambitions as well, why should we take sides? Fair question. We should do our best to support what is in out best interest. Of course, what that is, and is not, is subject to debate. In the Ukraine situation, I think it is in the entire world's best interest that nations not invade each other and that they honor their treaties. Russia guaranteed Ukraine's territorial sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons they inherited from the USSR. We want less nuclear proliferation, and we want stable borders. So, we should oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That does not mean we have to send in troops, but it can include supporting Ukraine. That's my basic answer to your question. If we don't take sides, we might see another expansionist juggernaut like Hitler or Stalin or even Napoleon. We need to minimize invasions. I am not anti-Russian at all, but I oppose Putin's revanchism and adventurism. we need to minimize invasions? Yes Would our invasion of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, bombing of Libya, and Sebis count? Count as what, for what? If you want to count things, go ahead, I wasn't. Would our need to see treaties enforced include the Minsk Accords Yes which were violated daily by Ukrainian shelling of the Donbass for eight years and which Angela Merkel admitted were merely to buy time for Ukraine to build up its military? No they were not, Russia violated them. And it does not matter what Merkel said; she and Putin were close, I doubt either got much over on the other. We need to avoid invasions like the Sudetendland and WWII Poland, which model Putin is following. If you like Putin, that's your right, just admit it. If you think he is your friend, because he is the enemy of your enemy (the Biden administration), your are ignoring the fact that Putin could also be your enemy.
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A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. So,...Americans taking their children to see homosexual men dressed as women and putting on sexually explicit "shows" isn't really happening? Teens in America being mutilated in an attempt to change from one sex to another isn't really happening? Pornographic materials aren't really being distributed to American elementary schools? It's all just, in your words, "the power of imagination?" A big part of the world doesn't want that decadence in their cultures and they're working to keep it out. They don't want Zelensky playing their pianos with his peter.
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It's more correct to refer to Russia's ambitions as "influence expansion". And the U.S.A. has handed that to Russia in spades. There's a New World Order being built as a result of the actions of the crazies who control the U.S. government. The U.S.A. won't be included in it. Russian history would show them to be a large nation mostly isolationist and subject to designs on their territory by the Western European powers. So naturally after their experience with Napoleon and WW1 and WW2 they desired to set up buffer states under their control. Hence the Warsaw pact. And their crash program to develop nuclear weapons and their financing of proxy wars to keep the west broke and busy. A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. Poor Russia. Just wanted to be left alone, the only country in Europe with no ambition. So, if by your contention other countries in Europe have ambitions as well, why should we take sides? Fair question. We should do our best to support what is in out best interest. Of course, what that is, and is not, is subject to debate. In the Ukraine situation, I think it is in the entire world's best interest that nations not invade each other and that they honor their treaties. Russia guaranteed Ukraine's territorial sovereignty in exchange for Ukraine giving up the nuclear weapons they inherited from the USSR. We want less nuclear proliferation, and we want stable borders. So, we should oppose Russia's invasion of Ukraine. That does not mean we have to send in troops, but it can include supporting Ukraine. That's my basic answer to your question. If we don't take sides, we might see another expansionist juggernaut like Hitler or Stalin or even Napoleon. We need to minimize invasions. I am not anti-Russian at all, but I oppose Putin's revanchism and adventurism. we need to minimize invasions? Yes Would our invasion of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, bombing of Libya, and Sebis count? Count as what, for what? If you want to count things, go ahead, I wasn't. Would our need to see treaties enforced include the Minsk Accords Yes which were violated daily by Ukrainian shelling of the Donbass for eight years and which Angela Merkel admitted were merely to buy time for Ukraine to build up its military? No they were not, Russia violated them. And it does not matter what Merkel said; she and Putin were close, I doubt either got much over on the other. We need to avoid invasions like the Sudetendland and WWII Poland, which model Putin is following. If you like Putin, that's your right, just admit it. If you think he is your friend, because he is the enemy of your enemy (the Biden administration), your are ignoring the fact that Putin could also be your enemy. So, we only need to avoid invasions by cojntries we don’t like? Invasions by us or countries we like are okay. Got it. You don’t consider the killing of over 14,000 civilians by Ukrainian artillery from 2014 to the start of the war a violation of the Minsk Accords?
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So, we only need to avoid invasions by cojntries we don’t like? Speak for yourself, I never said that. Invasions by us or countries we like are okay. Got it. If you say so. I never said that. You don’t consider the killing of over 14,000 civilians by Ukrainian artillery from 2014 to the start of the war a violation of the Minsk Accords? Have you stopped beating your wife? You are assuming facts which are not admitted.
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A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. So,...Americans taking their children to see homosexual men dressed as women and putting on sexually explicit "shows" isn't really happening? Teens in America being mutilated in an attempt to change from one sex to another isn't really happening? Pornographic materials aren't really being distributed to American elementary schools? It's all just, in your words, "the power of imagination?" A big part of the world doesn't want that decadence in their cultures and they're working to keep it out. They don't want Zelensky playing their pianos with his peter. None of that would justify Putin invading Ukraine. Why have you not moved to Russia?
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So, we only need to avoid invasions by cojntries we don’t like? Speak for yourself, I never said that. Invasions by us or countries we like are okay. Got it. If you say so. I never said that. You don’t consider the killing of over 14,000 civilians by Ukrainian artillery from 2014 to the start of the war a violation of the Minsk Accords? Have you stopped beating your wife? You are assuming facts which are not admitted. That’s exactly what you said. And yes, regardless of whether you admit it or not, Ukraine shelled civilians pretty much daily for eight years.
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Putin has Useful Idiots (полезный идиот) here.
In political jargon, a useful idiot is a term currently used to reference a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause—particularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless source—without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders.[1][2] The term was often used during the Cold War to describe non-communists regarded as susceptible to communist propaganda and manipulation
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A pattern of behavior is making itself known in the U.S.A., also. It's interesting to see a large part of the world uniting to protect itself from the type of decadence that has developed in the U.S.A. Above, we see the power of imagination. Seeing what they believe, not believing what they see. So,...Americans taking their children to see homosexual men dressed as women and putting on sexually explicit "shows" isn't really happening? Teens in America being mutilated in an attempt to change from one sex to another isn't really happening? Pornographic materials aren't really being distributed to American elementary schools? It's all just, in your words, "the power of imagination?" A big part of the world doesn't want that decadence in their cultures and they're working to keep it out. They don't want Zelensky playing their pianos with his peter. None of that would justify Putin invading Ukraine. Why have you not moved to Russia? Why haven't you made Aliyah?
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Look ^^^ One popped up right here.  ETA: How are the World History classes coming along ?
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You failed it.
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What are you getting out of all these dead Ukrainians?
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Just say'n....
Remember those so called leaks?
There maybe some people in the gov with half a brain, trying to stop WWIII .
The only sock puppets are people who believe the bs put out by the Biden administration.. ..
Why The Long-Awaited Ukrainian Counteroffensive Is Delayed
by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, May 02, 2023 - 03:40 PM
The much-touted and anticipated spring counteroffensive by the Ukrainian army is still on hold, and according to both Ukraine military and Western officials, it's all due to mud. And yet, the White House has still offered an upbeat assessment of how Ukraine is fairing militarily. US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby only yesterday declared of Russia's offensives against key holdout towns in Donetsk and Luhansk, "Most of these efforts have stalled and failed." He asserted that "Russia has been unable to seize any real strategically significant territory."
So Kirby paints a picture of a teetering Russian army, and still there's no counteroffensive on the horizon. "But for the moment, they are barely moving forward, stalled not by ferocious Russian attacks, but by an enemy no less tenacious: the viscous central Ukrainian mud," The New York Times wrote Monday. A Ukrainian officer interviewed by the Times acknowledged that "Until the weather improves, there will be no counteroffensive." This is because: "the vehicles will get stuck and then what will we do if the shooting starts?"
The report further describes why Ukraine is holding off in saying, "Deep and black, with a consistency similar to a mixture of cookie dough and wet cement, the spring mud is one obstacle that the Ukrainian military, for all its ingenuity, finds difficult to overcome." Further "It jams weapons and steals the boots from soldiers’ feet. Wheels and treads spin and spin, only digging military vehicles deeper into the mire."
Image: Anadolu Agency, Getty Images
Echoing the same, Kiev’s ambassador to the UK, Vadim Pristayko, told Sky News on Tuesday, "Obviously, the weather is not allowing so far the heavy tanks to move in the Ukrainian usual spring mud." Ukraine's Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov has also recently stated the weather has played a key role in determining the timing of a counteroffensive. Also, Russia has lately ramped up its strikes across the country. Is it really just mud and less than ideal weather stalling the counteroffensive? Or is there something more?
Geopolitical commentator Melkulangara Bhadrakumar explores the "something more" below via The Ron Paul Institute...
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The month of May has arrived but without the long-awaited Ukrainian “counteroffensive”. The western media is speculating that it may come by late May. There is also the spin that Kiev is judicious to “buy time.” The chances of Ukraine making some sort of “breakthrough” in the 950-km long Russian frontline cannot be ruled out but a Russian counteroffensive is all but certain to follow. An open-ended war will not suit Western powers.
Last week, NATO’s top commander, US Army General Christopher Cavoli stated that the Russian army operating in Ukraine is larger than when the Kremlin launched its special military operation and the Ukrainians “have to be better than the Russian force they will face” and decide when and where they will strike.
Cavoli said Russia has strategic depth in manpower and has only lost one warship and about 80 fighters and tactical bombers in an air fleet numbering about 1,000 so far. The general gently contradicted Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin and Chief of General Staff Gen. Mark Milley who have been propagating that Russia is on the brink of defeat.
Speaking at the House panel on Wednesday, Gen. Cavoli said, “This war is far from over.” On Thursday, he went further to tell the Senate, “I think [the Russians] can fight another year.” At the House hearing, Cavoli also said Russian submarine activity has only picked up in the North Atlantic since the beginning of the war and none of the Kremlin’s strategic nuclear forces have been affected by operations in Ukraine.
He said at one point in his written testimony, “Russian air, maritime, space, cyber, and strategic forces have not suffered significant degradation in the current war. Moreover, Russia will likely rebuild its future Army into a sizeable and more capable land force… Russia retains a vast stockpile of deployed and non-deployed nuclear weapons, which present an existential threat to the US.”
Clearly, the entire narrative of lies and obfuscation created by the neocons in the Biden Administration through the past year has unraveled. The balance sheet shows there is nothing to justify the massive amount of aid to Ukraine through the past one-year period — in excess of $100 billion dollars, which is pro rata vastly more than what the US had spent in the twenty years of war in Afghanistan.
Gen. Cavoli’s testimony came soon after the leaked Pentagon documents recently, which has presented a grim picture of the state of Kiev’s military preparedness and the Biden Administration’s lack of confidence in the Zelensky regime.
The Pentagon documents echoed, in effect, a January study titled Avoiding a Long War by the RAND Corporation, which recommended that “the paramount US interest in minimizing escalation risks should increase the US interest in avoiding a long war (in Ukraine). In short, the consequences of a long war — ranging from persistent elevated risks to economic damage — far outweigh the possible benefits.”
Indeed, it appears that there is a significant stream of dissenting opinion within the US security and defence establishment, which estimates that President Biden has taken the US on a disastrous policy trajectory that is fated to have a calamitous outcome — a humiliating defeat in Ukraine that may damage the NATO alliance, weaken the transatlantic system and erode the US’ credibility as a global power.
Well-informed veterans of the US intelligence community regard the leaking of Pentagon documents itself as a mini-mutiny. The former CIA analyst Ray McGovern told China’s CGTN, “I believe it could be that some senior policymakers in the Pentagon at the highest reaches of the Department of Defense have decided, ‘You know, it’s a fool’s errand in Ukraine. Maybe, we got to get out the truth. Maybe, we got to expose people like Joint Chief of Staff Milley and Secretary Austin for the lies they have told about Ukrainian progress and Russians being just pulverised. And, maybe, that will stop this widening of the war.’ ”
The well-known former CIA analyst Larry Johnson shares the same view. He wrote: “This looks like a controlled, directed leak… the leaked material is not random intelligence material. It is designed to tell several stories. The most prominent is the deterioration of Ukrainian capabilities and the major obstacles confronting the United States and the rest of NATO in supplying badly needed air defence, artillery shells, artillery pieces and tanks. In other words, Ukraine is going to crash and burn.”
Johnson added, “Let me suggest one possibility for this leak — create a predicate for forcing Joe Biden from office. The revelations in the classified documents are not fabrications designed to deceive the Russians. Nor are they the kind of material to rally more US support for pouring more resources into the black hole of Ukraine. These leaks feed the meme that the Biden team is incompetent and endangering American interests overseas.”
Make no mistake, such coup attempts by the Deep State are nothing new in US presidential history — Eisenhower was undercut when he sought détente the Soviet Union; a whole corpus of materials available today suggests that CIA framed Nixon in the Watergate affair. Today, all this is happening against the backdrop of President Biden seeking a second term in the 2024 election.
As for Zelensky himself, he is acutely conscious that success or failure of his “counteroffensive” will be critical for continued western support. All things taken into account, a messy diplomatic scenario is looming ahead, one that would also open up divisions between western countries, and in which China could play a more important role.
There is no guarantee that public support for Biden’s proxy war would hold through the 2024 election. Suffice to say, it is increasingly doubtful whether Biden will sacrifice his presidency over the Ukraine war. These are of course early days. A large ship needs a big arc for turnaround.
The Russians are taking their decisions on the basis of own assessments. There has been a perceptible scaling up of Russian strikes against Ukrainian military facilities. Massive strikes deep into Ukrainian military’s rear areas have been reported.
An attack on Sunday on railroad infrastructure and depots for ammunition and fuel in Pavlograd, a major communication hub near Ukraine’s fourth-largest city of Dnepropetrovsk, was particularly devastating. The Ukrainian troops had been accumulating in Pavlograd for an offensive toward Zaporozhye. Two S-300 missile divisions were destroyed.
In the weekend, former president Dmitry Medvedev wrote in Telegram channel that Russia should seek “mass destruction” of Ukrainian personnel and military equipment”; deal a “maximum military defeat” on the Armed Forces of Ukraine; strive for “the complete defeat of the enemy and the final overthrow of the Nazi regime in Kiev with the complete demilitarization of the entire territory of the former Ukraine”; and press ahead with reprisals against key figures of the Zelensky government, regardless of their location, and without limits.”
Medvedev added, “Otherwise, they will not calm down… and the war will drag on for a long time. Our country doesn’t need that.” The mood has turned ugly and the conflict is set to take a vicious turn, as diplomacy has run aground completely.
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So, we only need to avoid invasions by cojntries we don’t like? Speak for yourself, I never said that. Invasions by us or countries we like are okay. Got it. If you say so. I never said that. You don’t consider the killing of over 14,000 civilians by Ukrainian artillery from 2014 to the start of the war a violation of the Minsk Accords? Have you stopped beating your wife? You are assuming facts which are not admitted. That’s exactly what you said. And yes, regardless of whether you admit it or not, Ukraine shelled civilians pretty much daily for eight years. Please cite where I said that. You won't because you can't. And your repeating yourself about shelling does not equal facts. You too may be simply seeing what you believe.
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Putin has Useful Idiots (полезный идиот) here.
In political jargon, a useful idiot is a term currently used to reference a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause—particularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless source—without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders.[1][2] The term was often used during the Cold War to describe non-communists regarded as susceptible to communist propaganda and manipulation The Russia translation isn't even in plural dumb Biden boomer. Plus it was originally "useful fools" not "idiots" dumb Biden boomer plus the proper political term is "nолезные дураки" You should try mastering basic English before you go into areas you no clue Typical Biden дурак
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Remember when you posted how important masking, social distancing and the jab were to survive deadly Covid? Going to deny that too? lol So, we only need to avoid invasions by cojntries we don’t like? Speak for yourself, I never said that. Invasions by us or countries we like are okay. Got it. If you say so. I never said that. You don’t consider the killing of over 14,000 civilians by Ukrainian artillery from 2014 to the start of the war a violation of the Minsk Accords? Have you stopped beating your wife? You are assuming facts which are not admitted. That’s exactly what you said. And yes, regardless of whether you admit it or not, Ukraine shelled civilians pretty much daily for eight years. Please cite where I said that. You won't because you can't. And your repeating yourself about shelling does not equal facts. You too may be simply seeing what you believe.
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Remember when you posted how important masking, social distancing and the jab were to survive deadly Covid? Going to deny that too? lol So, we only need to avoid invasions by cojntries we don’t like? Speak for yourself, I never said that. Invasions by us or countries we like are okay. Got it. If you say so. I never said that. You don’t consider the killing of over 14,000 civilians by Ukrainian artillery from 2014 to the start of the war a violation of the Minsk Accords? Have you stopped beating your wife? You are assuming facts which are not admitted. That’s exactly what you said. And yes, regardless of whether you admit it or not, Ukraine shelled civilians pretty much daily for eight years. Please cite where I said that. You won't because you can't. And your repeating yourself about shelling does not equal facts. You too may be simply seeing what you believe. The man must be a expert 🤣Covid shots slavery Lincoln pollocks and ukrops
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