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Sweet. Is the function/design of the dial the same as the previous or were there any changes there?

Good question. My existing Precision Hunter has a dial that starts at 1 and goes to 13 with 4 clicks/hash marks between each number, for a total of 48 clicks. I hate that arrangement. It should have had 0 as the start of the dial for your rifle zero and then you dial up from there.

I'm pretty sure mine starts with 0 at the beginning hash and a numbered hash at every 5/10/15/etc. Not looking at it right now but if it started at 1 I think I'd remember it.

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This is what mine looks like, note the picture is rotated 90deg

That appears to be MOA where mine is MIL...but either way, it still seems odd to start at 1.

A quick look at:

https://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/turrets/hunting.html

..shows the following which is what I think mine looks like. I'll verify tonight.

Is that perhaps an older MOA dial version?? I have a Klassik (confirmed by Jerry @ S&B) with 0-12, and 1/4 MOA dashes in between the numbers... just a thought.


edit - typing delay / late reply, JCMCUBIC already suggested MOA

Well Schmidt and Bender told me that it was 1/2 centimeter clicks at 100 meters, or approximately .20" at 100 meters, or .18" at 100 yards which is a very poor way to do a dial. This makes the 4 clicks between the numbers even more useless. Now I am not sure those Germans do the same way twice on anything they build because I have heard of so many different variations of the Precision Hunter including yours.

Now I have not shot this scope for 10 or more years and I have forgotten what it actually is and how I dealt with it but I plan to shoot it as soon as the wind dies down here to confirm the dial. I have never hunted it only shot it a few times at paper. My plan for it is to let a friend use the scope on a elk hunting trip in the fall so he and I will ring it out on his rifle.

0-45 on the dial.

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Excellent. Thanks!

Yes, I like that 4.8 a lot!

Stealthgoat,

It could be MOA and that would explain the 4 graduations between the numbers but again when I purchased the scope their web site indicated 1/2 cm or 1/5" (.20") at 100 meters. When I got the scope I also called to confirm the graduations and was told that the information I had was correct.

Now I have had this on a 7 Rem Mag and many years ago when zeroing the rifle I ran out of adjustments to have the scope zeroed and still have dial room in the vertical so I installed Burris signature rings with offset inserts and the next range session I was able to zero the scope and move the dial its full range. I did not verify the click values, although I should have, and I only shot the rifle at distance by using the Mildot reticle and have never dialed it. In fact I don't think I have shot that rifle in 10 years or a little more and it was never hunted with that scope. I did not like the dial and just did not use the scope.

As I said earlier I plan to shoot the rifle and confirm the click values on the scope as soon as the wind stops blowing my hat off.

I am very much looking forward to getting the new version of this Klassic with the 4.8 Mils on the dial. It should be here today.

Got my S&B 2.5-12x42 P3L and it is just as AKwolverine describes. I think I will be happy with this, 4.8 mils on the dial and a Mildot reticle what's not to like. Oh, and the lit center section of the reticle appears to have more than enough range of intensity to fit any ambient light situation.

AKwolverine,

My heart has sunk a little after reviewing my new scope. Please look at your owners card and see if yours says what mine appears to be saying in that the elevation turret is 1/2 cm but the windage is 1 cm. Now the scope was advertised by Euro Optics as a 1 cm scope. If it is a 1/2 cm elevation I am no better off than I am with my old scope.

1 cm; clockwise turret; ASV = BDC

You’re happy.

Thanks, I saw that 1/2 cm and that scared me.

Of the half dozen 3-12x42 Klassik's that I've worked with, ALL have had a maximum elevation "travel" of 2.4 MILs. I suspect this is the true for your scope as well, which would mean the elevation turret pictured is 0.05 MIL/click. It would be awesome IF the turret travel was indeed 4.8 MILs, but I don't think it is. A range, or a lab test will tell you for sure. In my experience, a phone call or an email to S&B can be very frustrating.

That said, I was able to get S&B to make me a few custom dials, they call them BDC but they really aren't, marked in MILs from 0 to 2 with hash marks at every 0.05 MILs. It took a while, but it did happen.

Like I said, it would be awesome IF your turrets had a 4.8 MIL travel, but I recommend you check them to be certain. Please let us know what you find out. Best.

Depending on application. I would consider 6x42, 1.5-6x42 and 3-12x42.

If sitting on a high seat, after deer or wild boar at dusk, then some sort of 8x50-56 would be good.

I like the old 4x36 too. We are hunting, not spotting craters on the moon, in my opinion.

I verified the BDC's added to mine (6x42 and 3-12x42) both start at 0 and end with 2 hashes past 30.

This turret is 0.25 MOA/click. 0.25x32 = 8 MOA which is very close to 2.4 MILs (8.256 MOA).