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Too much paint, bad ground #18408556 05/08/23
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2 B Bristoe OP Campfire Oracle
OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	,..on a 1952 8N tractor. Went out to do some work with it today and it was stone dead. No electricity to nothing. Tried everything that came to mind. After eliminating many things, I just decided to concentrate on the battery and battery cables. The guy who restored this old tractor put a dandy, automotive type paint job on it,...layed it up thick and shiny. I took the ground cable off, scraped the paint off where the cable bolted against the body, put it back on and it fired right up. Put me in a schitty mood for a few hours. Now I'm back in a good mood.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408565 05/08/23
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 19,563 Likes: 4 MAGA B BillyGoatGruff Campfire Ranger
BillyGoatGruff Campfire Ranger B Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 19,563 Likes: 4 MAGA	12v? MAGA

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408570 05/08/23
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OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	No. It's the original 6 volt system. I think it's had a problem with the ground all along. Because today after I scraped the paint off where it grounded, it fired right up cold. I usually had to spin it over a few times cold to get it to fire.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408571 05/08/23
Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 9,970 Likes: 7 H Hotrod_Lincoln Campfire Outfitter
Hotrod_Lincoln Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 9,970 Likes: 7	I helped a guy get an antique starter going for a 51 Chevy truck after he did a "restoration" on it by powder coating everything before assembling it. It wouldn't run at all until I scraped the powder coating off so the current could flow to ground. He was a little red faced over that! Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Hotrod_Lincoln #18408574 05/08/23
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OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	Yeah, I'd guess that powder coating is a good insulator.

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Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408582 05/08/23
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 47,175 Likes: 1 south texas-Corpus Christi stxhunter Campfire 'Bwana
stxhunter Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 47,175 Likes: 1 south texas-Corpus Christi	Grounds are one of the first things to check. God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter

Re: Too much paint, bad ground stxhunter #18408587 05/08/23
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OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	Originally Posted by stxhunter Grounds are one of the first things to check. When it occurred to me to check the ground, I took a jumper cable, clipped one end to the battery and the other end to a bare spot on the axel and the lights would come on. That's when I knew it wasn't grounding.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408594 05/08/23
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OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	8Ns have very simple wiring to the headlights. It's just a simple switch straight from the battery to the lights. There can be all kinds of bad connections on it and the lights will still come on. That's what tipped me off that nothing was coming from the battery,...and I knew that the battery was good.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408655 05/08/23
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,221 Likes: 3 North of Des Moines kwg020 Campfire Ranger
kwg020 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,221 Likes: 3 North of Des Moines	Originally Posted by Bristoe ,..on a 1952 8N tractor. Went out to do some work with it today and it was stone dead. No electricity to nothing. Tried everything that came to mind. After eliminating many things, I just decided to concentrate on the battery and battery cables. The guy who restored this old tractor put a dandy, automotive type paint job on it,...layed it up thick and shiny. I took the ground cable off, scraped the paint off where the cable bolted against the body, put it back on and it fired right up. Put me in a schitty mood for a few hours. Now I'm back in a good mood. It appears to be a very thin line between the 2 ^^^ kwg For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408796 05/08/23
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autoshopteacher Campfire Member Joined: Apr 2020 Posts: 103 Montana/Texas	Caution on calling the cable between the battery and chassis "ground" on a six volt system as most are POSITIVE ground.

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Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408805 05/08/23
Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 9,970 Likes: 7 H Hotrod_Lincoln Campfire Outfitter
Hotrod_Lincoln Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 9,970 Likes: 7	I pity the students you had. Ignorance can be fixed. Stupid is forever!

Re: Too much paint, bad ground stxhunter #18408819 05/08/23
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Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,551 Likes: 22 Montana	Originally Posted by stxhunter Grounds are one of the first things to check. No shìt! I would have started there....not ended there. Wonder if he put some new parts on it first..... I am MAGA.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408848 05/08/23
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,743 Likes: 5 Either Texas or Idaho E EdM Campfire 'Bwana
EdM Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 33,743 Likes: 5 Either Texas or Idaho	The first thing I did when I bought my two old cars was check every ground for bare metal contact and I also added a few additional grounds. Conduct is the best proof of character.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Jim_Conrad #18408912 05/08/23
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OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad Originally Posted by stxhunter Grounds are one of the first things to check. No shìt! I would have started there....not ended there. Wonder if he put some new parts on it first..... No parts.

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408926 05/08/23
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2 B Bristoe OP Campfire Oracle
OP Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	I've been fighting the urge to sell the 8N, pinch off a piece of my IRA and buy one of these. But I guess not now. screenshot utility windows

Re: Too much paint, bad ground Bristoe #18408937 05/08/23
Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 28,163 Likes: 2 TN A alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger
alwaysoutdoors Campfire Ranger A Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 28,163 Likes: 2 TN	Originally Posted by Bristoe I've been fighting the urge to sell the 8N, pinch off a piece of my IRA and buy one of these. But I guess not now. screenshot utility windows

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