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There isn't a single 'Praise God', 'thank you Lord', 'Please Lord, do this for me' or 'forgive me for my sins' in there. The Lord's prayer is a lesson in how to include each of those things in a prayer. This is a list of 'I believes'. Every word is true but it's not a prayer and not intended to be a prayer.
Hang this on a wall as a reminder of your beliefs and get on with worshipping and praying as the Lord told us to do.

Since becoming Orthodox I say it with morning and evening prayers and hear it every service. It is a constant reminder of what I believe.

Yup, the Apostle's Creed is recited at every Catholic Mass. In fact, we recited it during last evening's Mass.

I've also taught it to folks interested in becoming Catholic during RCIA for many years.

Blessings,

Steve

Commitment

Because it traces its roots to JC and the Apostles.

Just yesterday, at a funeral for the local feed mill owner.
Methodist church.

Maybe again today, at the funeral for a priest, who was a local, and has been positioned here for many years, now.

It seems as though you are in some kind of hurry to "get on with worshipping and praying as the Lord told us to do." If so, may I suggest that you slow down and still your mind? Okay, it's not a prayer; I don't recall anyone saying that it is. But it seems to me it is a part of worship since it's part of a worship service. Do you object to hymns being sung? I'm not trying to be argumentative here; I truly don't understand why this seems to be such a burr under your saddle.

Not intended to bash Catholics but the first Christian Church was the Orthodox Church. The Catholic Church split in 1054. Wording of the Creed was one of the reasons of the split.

I believe the God who knows all things gave us all we need in the New Testament. Man, in all his wisdom thought he could improve on God’s plan for our Salvation! Many of these ideas are inspired by Satan, “the father of lies”.
Hasbeen

American Evangelicalism is saturated in militant individualistic sentimentalism and pragmatism.

You see this in everything from their trivializing of the sacraments and aspects of the liturgy, such as creedal recitation, meant to build our sense of what we have in common; even their incessant use of I/me vs we/us in songs.

It’s about me and my feelings not about old fashioned outdated ideas like dogma and tradition.

And many wonder why the American church is in a state of free fall.

It is such practices as recitation of the Creeds that demonstrate that salvation is more about God than man.

We naturally find that to be offensive.

If you've never heard this, crank it up:

Thanks for the Third Day vid. Haven’t listened to them in years. Love the tribute to Rich Mullins.

I came across this while reading this morning. I offer it for your consideration on the purpose and usefulness of creeds and confessions.

Gehard O Forde
Where God Meets Man
Chapter 7. The Church and the Charter of Freedom

...A confession is something rather different from a dogma declared by the church to be necessary for getting into heaven. A confession is something that one makes willingly because he wants to take his stand for or against something, with or against a given group. To subscribe to a confession in that sense is willingly to take one's place within a family of churches, to takes one's stand and make one's witness in that fashion. Confession is not a means whereby the church legislates what has to be done or believed to be saved. It is rather a means whereby the church on earth makes known it's witness, and by such witness draws boundaries between itself and the world, and between itself and other empirical churches.

This verse is commonly taken out of context. Jesus said it in relation to conflicts between believers. If it applied all the time, would Jesus not be there when you're alone? Do you have to go find a couple other believers before Jesus will be there?

Mat 18:15 If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. 18 Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”

Your reasoning does nothing to alter the reality contained in that post. For clarification I refer you to the words of Mr Forde quoted above.

Our church did a 3-4 week series on it last year.

Ron

This is the one I learned:
I believe in God,
the Father almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty;
from there he will come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.

Amen.

Thanks good folks.

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