Another reason why hockey is such a great sport. Cheap shots are often rewarded with a tune up from the teams' enforcer. Usually followed by some time in the penalty box so everyone can think about what they've done. And hopefully some stitches applied in the dressing room as well.
Meh, it looked intentional but the theory is sound. I don't know what girls softball rules are but there was a runner on 2nd making a jump for 3rd. She has the right to make the throw. The batter may have been trying to impeded the throw if if stealing bases is legal in softball. I think a smart person could have read the situation and got the fawk out of the batters box knowing that throw was likely to happen. If not, she was interfering on purpose. MLB players bail out of the box when a runner may be trying to get to 3rd.
I pitched and played 2nd since I was a kid. If I fielded the ball at 2nd, runners were in the way for the throw to first and usually caused you to make a bad throw. The onus is on the runner to get out of the way or take a baseball to the face during the play. I mowed down a guy or 2 who wanted to stay on the baseline and then word got out that my throws were going straight down the baseline and dudes either ran off the baseline or got real low.
Competition....
I played third base but we were taught the same, especially on runners who habitually came in high or spikes up. This was the late ‘60s long before there was a rule about calling the runner out for breaking up the DP.That was an assumed role as the runner. We also didn’t have full helmets; they were just batting caps so to speak.
One afternoon a runner decided to get in the way of the throw from our shortstop and WHACK! With his normal sidearm throw, the ball hit the runner right in the logo on the front of his batting helmet. Knocked him out cold and the ball ended up in the bleachers along the first base line. 😳
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A couple of posters here seem focus on how tough and nasty they would be as players in different situations, but the rules/requirements/conventions that apply here also have been posted. None of the whacking was the fault of the batter.
Up above, a former gamer posted what I think is the most telling comment in the thread: "played catcher for 4 years in high school and another 4 years in college. If I or anyone else had ever done that to a batter there would have been a brawl at home plate."
Runner on second heading to third, batter interference? Coaches need to have batters step back, not in the base line, where the throw is going. Bad coaching! Or players trying to interfere, hoping to get away with it, while Sally steals third. My observation.
Your observation is somewhat correct. This could cause loss of an eye or teeth of a young girl, however. The coach and catcher should be out of the league, and the coach fired. Any decent coach would be all over the umpires, not trying to harm a young kid.
TV has become nothing more than the Petri dish where this country grows its idiots.
Meh, it looked intentional but the theory is sound. I don't know what girls softball rules are but there was a runner on 2nd making a jump for 3rd. She has the right to make the throw. The batter may have been trying to impeded the throw if if stealing bases is legal in softball. I think a smart person could have read the situation and got the fawk out of the batters box knowing that throw was likely to happen. If not, she was interfering on purpose. MLB players bail out of the box when a runner may be trying to get to 3rd.
I pitched and played 2nd since I was a kid. If I fielded the ball at 2nd, runners were in the way for the throw to first and usually caused you to make a bad throw. The onus is on the runner to get out of the way or take a baseball to the face during the play. I mowed down a guy or 2 who wanted to stay on the baseline and then word got out that my throws were going straight down the baseline and dudes either ran off the baseline or got real low.
Competition....
This would make sense if there was a play at third. There wasn't. No one was advancing and the third baseman was playing in front of the bag. That girl was told to throw down in order to get a "batter's interference" call, in my opinion. The second video clearly shows her throwing the ball so far left of the third base line, it went into the dug out. She was aiming at the girls head, and missed.
JMO
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Runner on second heading to third, batter interference? Coaches need to have batters step back, not in the base line, where the throw is going. Bad coaching! Or players trying to interfere, hoping to get away with it, while Sally steals third. My observation.
Your observation is somewhat correct. This could cause loss of an eye or teeth of a young girl, however. The coach and catcher should be out of the league, and the coach fired. Any decent coach would be all over the umpires, not trying to harm a young kid.
Like I said before, intentional it's bs. Some must not have seen the runner between 2 nd and 3rd, . This has been an interesting thread!
I will add that girls this age group are the most petty single minded people on the planet. If a coach instructed her to do it they are also petty and insecure. I played a lot of baseball before injuries side lined me. I played hard . I intentional throw at certain people when pitching. I hit a obviously blind umpire ( that was an uncle of one on other team. And I slide hard. I never aimed for a head or hands and all was tough but safe. I still hold the record for wins as a starting pitcher in the league I played in , mostly because of inning limits now. And no one accused me of dirty play. This catcher would have a tough time not getting beaned in the old days , whether batting or on basepath , and she would have earned a bad name.......
Runner and interference rules aside for justification.
Doesn't change that it was a obvious Deliberate act.
The distance was so short to the batter and the angle for any throw to 3rd was open. Batter was well enough in the m8ddle of the box and stepping out of it, the catcher could have easily made a throw to 3rd to keep a runner at 2nd. 3rd basemen was no where near 3rd base. Almost 10 ft down the baseline towards home. Totally out of position to cover a play at 3rd per a advancing runner from 2nd... Not even covering her bag on outfield side of running lane per a runner on 2nd to begin with.... Let alone having line of sight on the Base runner oblique to her rear. Runner on 2nd was at normal lead off base and then returning to it while catcher had the ball. Catcher squared off her upper body right to the batter to bean her from the footage it appears to me.
That was a intentional bean ball pitch meant to injure.
Would not be tolerated around here. Player and coach would have received some sort of punishment. Couple game suspension at least if applicable.
That catcher probably screwed herself out of some scholarship potential if she is good enough. That incident will haunt her if so. And those 1,s and 0,s combining to make up that clip in binary world ain't going away...
A raise eyebrows sort of thing for any colleges possibly looking at her...
Meh, it looked intentional but the theory is sound. I don't know what girls softball rules are but there was a runner on 2nd making a jump for 3rd. She has the right to make the throw. The batter may have been trying to impeded the throw if if stealing bases is legal in softball. I think a smart person could have read the situation and got the fawk out of the batters box knowing that throw was likely to happen. If not, she was interfering on purpose. MLB players bail out of the box when a runner may be trying to get to 3rd.
I pitched and played 2nd since I was a kid. If I fielded the ball at 2nd, runners were in the way for the throw to first and usually caused you to make a bad throw. The onus is on the runner to get out of the way or take a baseball to the face during the play. I mowed down a guy or 2 who wanted to stay on the baseline and then word got out that my throws were going straight down the baseline and dudes either ran off the baseline or got real low.
Competition....
Thanks for giving us a glimpse into your childhood.
In this game, the throw was 20 degrees left of the third base player. The 3rd base player wasn't even in position to make a play on the base runner, if the runner had gone.
Meh, it looked intentional but the theory is sound. I don't know what girls softball rules are but there was a runner on 2nd making a jump for 3rd. She has the right to make the throw. The batter may have been trying to impeded the throw if if stealing bases is legal in softball. I think a smart person could have read the situation and got the fawk out of the batters box knowing that throw was likely to happen. If not, she was interfering on purpose. MLB players bail out of the box when a runner may be trying to get to 3rd.
I pitched and played 2nd since I was a kid. If I fielded the ball at 2nd, runners were in the way for the throw to first and usually caused you to make a bad throw. The onus is on the runner to get out of the way or take a baseball to the face during the play. I mowed down a guy or 2 who wanted to stay on the baseline and then word got out that my throws were going straight down the baseline and dudes either ran off the baseline or got real low.
Competition....
Thanks for giving us a glimpse into your childhood.
In this game, the throw was 20 degrees left of the third base player. The 3rd base player wasn't even in position to make a play on the base runner, if the runner had gone.
That is all.
Exactly....
Why I edited my previous post . Then you made your post.
Runner and interference rules aside for justification.
Doesn't change that it was a obvious Deliberate act.
The distance was so short to the batter and the angle for any throw to 3rd was open. Batter was well enough in the m8ddle of the box and stepping out of it, the catcher could have easily made a throw to 3rd to keep a runner at 2nd. 3rd basemen was no where near 3rd base. Almost 10 ft down the baseline towards home. Totally out of position to cover a play at 3rd per a advancing runner from 2nd... Not even covering her bag on outfield side of running lane per a runner on 2nd to begin with.... Let alone having line of sight on the Base runner oblique to her rear. Runner on 2nd was at normal lead off base and then returning to it while catcher had the ball. Catcher squared off her upper body right to the batter to bean her from the footage it appears to me.
That was a intentional bean ball pitch meant to injure.
Would not be tolerated around here. Player and coach would have received some sort of punishment. Couple game suspension at least if applicable.
That catcher probably screwed herself out of some scholarship potential if she is good enough. That incident will haunt her if so. And those 1,s and 0,s combining to make up that clip in binary world ain't going away...
A raise eyebrows sort of thing for any colleges possibly looking at her...
Agreed. Hope that “catcher” loses any college scholarship offers she had if any. The “coach” should be banned for life for that kind of Bullschitt.
But like Barry mentioned earlier, those small town school districts like that one doesn’t give a flying Fugg what those coaches do, as long as they win “Championships”. Especially in Schittholes like that particular town.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
Character, or lack of it, comes directly from the coach. He or she determines the team’s attitude and behavior. A player will perform up, or down, to the standard the coach sets. Yea, the catcher should get tossed, but the coach needs something more substantial.
Character, or lack of it, comes directly from the coach. He or she determines the team’s attitude and behavior. A player will perform up, or down, to the standard the coach sets. Yea, the catcher should get tossed, but the coach needs something more substantial.
Yep.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
Absolutely amazing the members here who try to put lipstick on this pig. The coach and player are scum and the members here who post weak excuses are scum.
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