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I've noticed JoeBob refer to many posters disparagingly as "Boomers" when he disagrees with them in mulitple threads. Sometimes I know for a fact the person he's referring to is not old emough to be considered a "Baby Boomer".

It's his way of dismissing those who he percieves as being older than him when they disagree with him.

It's intellectually lazy, and f***ing annoying.

Shut up, boomer.

Precisely! grin

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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
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I've noticed JoeBob refer to many posters disparagingly as "Boomers" when he disagrees with them in mulitple threads. Sometimes I know for a fact the person he's referring to is not old emough to be considered a "Baby Boomer".

It's his way of dismissing those who he percieves as being older than him when they disagree with him.

It's intellectually lazy, and f***ing annoying.

Shut up, boomer.

Precisely! grin

I’m making a very real point that the small brained would rather be offended about than consider. The world has changed really damned quick and it is no longer appropriate nor intelligent to make fun of “kooky” schit. Older people have more trouble realizing that than some others because for the vast majority of their lives it wasn’t so. I was actually being charitable. I could just call anyone who has witnessed the last decade and still does that stuff a complete moron. I was actually trying to postulate a reason that doesn’t involve idiocy.

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I'm a Gen X'er, Desert Storm (AKA Gulf War I) veteran and have witnessed the government morph from being a wasteful, fairly disfunctional but somewhat useful entity into a force that is diametrically opposed to the welfare and benefit of the citizenry. It really started under Bush I (former CIA director, by the way), accelerated under Clinton, and has been a full blown force for evil the entirety of the 21st Century.

My eyes were opened by Ruby Ridge, then I truly saw the light during Waco. Both occurred when I was in my early 20s.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don’t know what the guy was or wasn’t. All i know is that there seemed to be a backstory made up for this guy already that seemed to check all the boxes.

Nice walk back from your original post and classic reverting to insults when you have nothing else, then again, that's been your tactic here for years.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
In the heat of an argument, he may have transitioned into more hard and fast stereotypes when addressing specific members participating in the debate, but that is a tendency under such circumstances. He has made clear, however, that he is speaking of trends, not hard and fast rules, and he acknowledges that many people born within the boomer range are well aware of our current situation, and have been for a very long time, and are not self-deceived.

"trends" only came about after I questioned his "absolutism" when he first responded to my post, but thanks for the non-answer to my questions, I was actually looking forward to your response on the Titanic, but life is full of disappointments....


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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
I'm a Gen X'er, Desert Storm (AKA Gulf War I) veteran and have witnessed the government morph from being a wasteful, fairly disfunctional but somewhat useful entity into a force that is diametrically opposed to the welfare and benefit of the citizenry. It really started under Bush I (former CIA director, by the way), accelerated under Clinton, and has been a full blown force for evil the entirety of the 21st Century.

My eyes were opened by Ruby Ridge, then I truly saw the light during Waco. Both occurred when I was in my early 20s.
All spot on observations.

Boomer here, but just barely. Although, when my generation was young, we called people older than us boomers (although it wasn't an insult at that time). Not sure at what point they decided the exact years so as to include us too.

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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
I'm a Gen X'er, Desert Storm (AKA Gulf War I) veteran and have witnessed the government morph from being a wasteful, fairly disfunctional but somewhat useful entity into a force that is diametrically opposed to the welfare and benefit of the citizenry. It really started under Bush I (former CIA director, by the way), accelerated under Clinton, and has been a full blown force for evil the entirety of the 21st Century.

My eyes were opened by Ruby Ridge, then I truly saw the light during Waco. Both occurred when I was in my early 20s.

I too was there and agree with your post, but I do think Trump was the exception and that is precisely way the "government" (aka swamp, etc) did what it had to do, to include an illegal election and continued persecution to get rid of him...


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Jorge, you asked me a question about the Titanic? What was it?

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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
I'm a Gen X'er, Desert Storm (AKA Gulf War I) veteran and have witnessed the government morph from being a wasteful, fairly disfunctional but somewhat useful entity into a force that is diametrically opposed to the welfare and benefit of the citizenry. It really started under Bush I (former CIA director, by the way), accelerated under Clinton, and has been a full blown force for evil the entirety of the 21st Century.

My eyes were opened by Ruby Ridge, then I truly saw the light during Waco. Both occurred when I was in my early 20s.

I too was there and agree with your post, but I do think Trump was the exception and that is precisely way the "government" (aka swamp, etc) did what it had to do, to include an illegal election and continued persecution to get rid of him...

Precisely.

Bush I was the first Deep State plant as president. That is why The Establishment hated Reagan. He ruined their plans for Bush (in effect, the CIA) to get into the Oval Office in 1980.

Reagan fought the Deep State. Trump not only fought it, but called it out regularly.

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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
I'm a Gen X'er, Desert Storm (AKA Gulf War I) veteran and have witnessed the government morph from being a wasteful, fairly disfunctional but somewhat useful entity into a force that is diametrically opposed to the welfare and benefit of the citizenry. It really started under Bush I (former CIA director, by the way), accelerated under Clinton, and has been a full blown force for evil the entirety of the 21st Century.

My eyes were opened by Ruby Ridge, then I truly saw the light during Waco. Both occurred when I was in my early 20s.

I too was there and agree with your post, but I do think Trump was the exception and that is precisely way the "government" (aka swamp, etc) did what it had to do, to include an illegal election and continued persecution to get rid of him...

Precisely.

Bush I was the first Deep State plant as president. That is why The Establishment hated Reagan. He ruined their plans for Bush (in effect, the CIA) to get into the Oval Office in 1980.

Reagan fought the Deep State. Trump not only fought it, but called it out regularly.
Yep. I suspect Reagan was issued a warning when he survived his botched assassination, and toned his rhetoric down a bit after that, e.g., no more talk about restoring the gold standard after his near assassination. I suspect the CIA was behind it, Hinckley being a programmed (MKUltra) asset.

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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
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Originally Posted by HoosierHawk
I'm a Gen X'er, Desert Storm (AKA Gulf War I) veteran and have witnessed the government morph from being a wasteful, fairly disfunctional but somewhat useful entity into a force that is diametrically opposed to the welfare and benefit of the citizenry. It really started under Bush I (former CIA director, by the way), accelerated under Clinton, and has been a full blown force for evil the entirety of the 21st Century.

My eyes were opened by Ruby Ridge, then I truly saw the light during Waco. Both occurred when I was in my early 20s.

I too was there and agree with your post, but I do think Trump was the exception and that is precisely way the "government" (aka swamp, etc) did what it had to do, to include an illegal election and continued persecution to get rid of him...

Precisely.

Bush I was the first Deep State plant as president. That is why The Establishment hated Reagan. He ruined their plans for Bush (in effect, the CIA) to get into the Oval Office in 1980.

Reagan fought the Deep State. Trump not only fought it, but called it out regularly.


That's an astute observation and a part of the picture I never considered. Looking at it from that angle makes some things a lot clearer.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
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I don’t know what the guy was or wasn’t. All i know is that there seemed to be a backstory made up for this guy already that seemed to check all the boxes.

Nice walk back from your original post and classic reverting to insults when you have nothing else, then again, that's been your tactic here for years.

It’s not a walk back you, dumbass. The only way I could “know” with any certainty is if I were involved. I wasn’t. But i have some ideas based on the things that have been happening in this world.

You really are an idiot. And that is not an insult. It’s an observation. I’m not gojng to sugar coat schit for you tender little feelers. Say stupid schit, and I’ll tell you that you are stupid.

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They tried to do to Reagan the same thing they did to Trump.

Kennedy was an outsider. Nixon was an outsider and hated the establishment and they hated him. Reagan wasn’t part of the club. And Trump definitely isn’t part of the club.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don’t know what the guy was or wasn’t. All i know is that there seemed to be a backstory made up for this guy already that seemed to check all the boxes.

Nice walk back from your original post and classic reverting to insults when you have nothing else, then again, that's been your tactic here for years.

It’s not a walk back you, dumbass. The only way I could “know” with any certainty is if I were involved. I wasn’t. But i have some ideas based on the things that have been happening in this world.

You really are an idiot. And that is not an insult. It’s an observation. I’m not gojng to sugar coat schit for you tender little feelers. Say stupid schit, and I’ll tell you that you are stupid.

I guess the third tier ambulance chasing "bidness" must be slow, you being so responsive today, but I do enjoy this and maybe this will help:
1. It is a FACT the Swamp, "they" have already done myriad illegal crap, the January 6 insurrection lie, jailing innocent folks, withholding/manufacturing evidence, etc
2. It is a FACT, they fired up the bought and paid for minions (51 of them) to craft a fake letter about the hunter laptop thanks to {{{Blinken}}}
3. It is a FACT the AG {{{Garland}}} is withholding evidence against the Bidens and the chinese connection
4. It is a FACT "they" invented the whole Russia nonsense against Trump
5. It is a FACT votes were harvested illegally in Georgia during the 2020 election
6. It is a FACT they are covering up for the Clintons and all of their crimes and treason

Given the above and there are a LOT more examples, "they" are capable of just about (just operative word) of doing anything to anybody to further their agenda. That said, it was certainly PLAUSIBLE, "they" generated all those facts you mention regarding this shooter. But to suggestive probably or certitude this guy was some sort of Manchurian Candidate that "they" showed him the queen of diamonds and off he went to kill, I'm just not ready to make that leap of cookery yet. Same BTW as the Titanic being sunk to get rid of big shots opposing the Federal Reserve or some black ops team demolishing the third building during 9/11 and of course one of your kook quotes "they" show all incoming presidents a video of the Zapruder film just to keep them in line. Bottom lien, the locus of your idiotic argument was that me and others express a particular point of view SOLELY because the age group we happen to be in. That is so incredibly stupid (and wrong) it's embarrassingly laughable. Hope the Jerry Springer inbreds throw some business your way this weekend


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Never heard that about the Titanic, jorge. Is that what you asked me about? I have no opinion, as your post above is the first I've heard of it. I'd need to look at what the hard evidence is, one way or the other, before forming a firm opinion.

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EXACTLY TRH. Evidence is the key, not assumptions based on some nut stating a theory as factual OR based on the year one was born.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don’t know what the guy was or wasn’t. All i know is that there seemed to be a backstory made up for this guy already that seemed to check all the boxes.

Nice walk back from your original post and classic reverting to insults when you have nothing else, then again, that's been your tactic here for years.

It’s not a walk back you, dumbass. The only way I could “know” with any certainty is if I were involved. I wasn’t. But i have some ideas based on the things that have been happening in this world.

You really are an idiot. And that is not an insult. It’s an observation. I’m not gojng to sugar coat schit for you tender little feelers. Say stupid schit, and I’ll tell you that you are stupid.

I guess the third tier ambulance chasing "bidness" must be slow, you being so responsive today, but I do enjoy this and maybe this will help:
1. It is a FACT the Swamp, "they" have already done myriad illegal crap, the January 6 insurrection lie, jailing innocent folks, withholding/manufacturing evidence, etc
2. It is a FACT, they fired up the bought and paid for minions (51 of them) to craft a fake letter about the hunter laptop thanks to {{{Blinken}}}
3. It is a FACT the AG {{{Garland}}} is withholding evidence against the Bidens and the chinese connection
4. It is a FACT "they" invented the whole Russia nonsense against Trump
5. It is a FACT votes were harvested illegally in Georgia during the 2020 election
6. It is a FACT they are covering up for the Clintons and all of their crimes and treason

Given the above and there are a LOT more examples, "they" are capable of just about (just operative word) of doing anything to anybody to further their agenda. That said, it was certainly PLAUSIBLE, "they" generated all those facts you mention regarding this shooter. But to suggestive probably or certitude this guy was some sort of Manchurian Candidate that "they" showed him the queen of diamonds and off he went to kill, I'm just not ready to make that leap of cookery yet. Same BTW as the Titanic being sunk to get rid of big shots opposing the Federal Reserve or some black ops team demolishing the third building during 9/11 and of course one of your kook quotes "they" show all incoming presidents a video of the Zapruder film just to keep them in line. Bottom lien, the locus of your idiotic argument was that me and others express a particular point of view SOLELY because the age group we happen to be in. That is so incredibly stupid (and wrong) it's embarrassingly laughable. Hope the Jerry Springer inbreds throw some business your way this weekend


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by JoeBob
I don’t know what the guy was or wasn’t. All i know is that there seemed to be a backstory made up for this guy already that seemed to check all the boxes.

Nice walk back from your original post and classic reverting to insults when you have nothing else, then again, that's been your tactic here for years.

It’s not a walk back you, dumbass. The only way I could “know” with any certainty is if I were involved. I wasn’t. But i have some ideas based on the things that have been happening in this world.

You really are an idiot. And that is not an insult. It’s an observation. I’m not gojng to sugar coat schit for you tender little feelers. Say stupid schit, and I’ll tell you that you are stupid.

I guess the third tier ambulance chasing "bidness" must be slow, you being so responsive today, but I do enjoy this and maybe this will help:
1. It is a FACT the Swamp, "they" have already done myriad illegal crap, the January 6 insurrection lie, jailing innocent folks, withholding/manufacturing evidence, etc
2. It is a FACT, they fired up the bought and paid for minions (51 of them) to craft a fake letter about the hunter laptop thanks to {{{Blinken}}}
3. It is a FACT the AG {{{Garland}}} is withholding evidence against the Bidens and the chinese connection
4. It is a FACT "they" invented the whole Russia nonsense against Trump
5. It is a FACT votes were harvested illegally in Georgia during the 2020 election
6. It is a FACT they are covering up for the Clintons and all of their crimes and treason

Given the above and there are a LOT more examples, "they" are capable of just about (just operative word) of doing anything to anybody to further their agenda. That said, it was certainly PLAUSIBLE, "they" generated all those facts you mention regarding this shooter. But to suggestive probably or certitude this guy was some sort of Manchurian Candidate that "they" showed him the queen of diamonds and off he went to kill, I'm just not ready to make that leap of cookery yet. Same BTW as the Titanic being sunk to get rid of big shots opposing the Federal Reserve or some black ops team demolishing the third building during 9/11 and of course one of your kook quotes "they" show all incoming presidents a video of the Zapruder film just to keep them in line. Bottom lien, the locus of your idiotic argument was that me and others express a particular point of view SOLELY because the age group we happen to be in. That is so incredibly stupid (and wrong) it's embarrassingly laughable. Hope the Jerry Springer inbreds throw some business your way this weekend

Thanks for showing how [bleep] stupid you actually are. You post example you acknowledge are legitimate and then you call people “kooks” who question schit and then conflate it with some Titanic theory that non-boomers heard about 30 years ago and dismissed.

But, hey, what do you expect from a dirty Cuban immigrant?

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Jorge can defend and speak for himself, but you sir are waaaaay over the line.


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Jorge can defend and speak for himself, but you sir are waaaaay over the line.

Shut up. Jorge has been around this place for at least the last ten years making fun of people like Hawkeye and calling them kooks and whatever else. He used to refer to Hawkeye as Kook of the Day and so on a so forth. He’ll call somebody a hillbilly or redneck in a heartbeat and he has always been a condescending ass. But the funny thing is, he is just a damned immigrant who came here to take advantage of what my people built, just like all these people coming now. The least he could do is be thankful and not so damned supercilious about it.

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