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I just installed a Holosun 507c on a new Smith model 69.(44mag)
I used an allchin mount to keep the sight as low as possible.
I am shooting at 25 yds off of a rest and with the sights verticle adjusment maxed out i am still 10" high!
Anybody else have this happen? I was shooting both special's and magnums, both 240gr.

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Yup, same here. I got a tapered shim and that cured the proplem. I am traveling and do not have or remember the what and where details. I'll look for the details when back home in a few weeks. In fact I still have the shim if you want it. I traded the m69.


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Just found it.
Optics Delrin Shims 1.0 Degree.....Amazon

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This is interesting as I was just about ready to use the same mount and sight on a S&W M686 .357. Now I'm not so sure I want to do that.


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well thanks for the info
I just ordered it and i will report back on my results.

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I had the same problem with my Model 69. I returned mine and put a Vortex Venom on which sighted in OK but I liked the Holosun reticle much better.


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I too like the dot and circle reticle on the holosun

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Originally Posted by MOGC
This is interesting as I was just about ready to use the same mount and sight on a S&W M686 .357. Now I'm not so sure I want to do that.
Mine worked out just fine.
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Originally Posted by TWR
Originally Posted by MOGC
This is interesting as I was just about ready to use the same mount and sight on a S&W M686 .357. Now I'm not so sure I want to do that.
Mine worked out just fine.
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Looks good. Looks like you're shooting matches of some sort? Probably a .38 load? Have you ever zeroed that with heavy bullet full house magnum ammunition?


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ICORE.

No I haven’t shot any heavy magnums with it. I’ll see what I can find and try them this weekend.

Just checked and all I have are 125 grain Gold Dots in magnums. Up until recently I’ve always had a 44 if I needed more gun. Gotta rethink things now I guess.

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Same with my Vortex sight on a 22/45

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Well i finally got the tapered shim as recommended and YES IT SOLVED MY PROBLEM!
So thanks to mjac my revolver is shooting to poi.

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Well i finally got the tapered shim as recommended and YES IT SOLVED MY PROBLEM!
So thanks to mjac my revolver is shooting to where i am aiming!

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Glad it worked for ya. Enjoy!


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I’ve used three EGW mounts, a 1911, a Glock, and a S&W 629 classic 5”. I haven’t had any issues getting them zeroed. The Glock was almost dead on at 25 yards when I first shot it, only about 2” to the right if I remember correctly, wasn’t much.

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I had this very issue today while trying to sight in a Holoson EPS Carry with an Allchin mount on my M69 using 300 grainers at 1150. I'll be trying the shim.

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Originally Posted by pabucktail
I had this very issue today while trying to sight in a Holoson EPS Carry with an Allchin mount on my M69 using 300 grainers at 1150. I'll be trying the shim.
O ne thing i found out is you will need longer screws than those supplied by Holosun. The mount from allchin comes with longer screws (6/32) but the head diameter was to big.
I had to machine the head diameter down about .025".

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Kinda makes me think I may go with the EGW mount.


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or not buy a model 69

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Originally Posted by 7887mm08
Originally Posted by pabucktail
I had this very issue today while trying to sight in a Holoson EPS Carry with an Allchin mount on my M69 using 300 grainers at 1150. I'll be trying the shim.
O ne thing i found out is you will need longer screws than those supplied by Holosun. The mount from allchin comes with longer screws (6/32) but the head diameter was to big.
I had to machine the head diameter down about .025".

Good to know. I'll comb the hardware store first I reckon.

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For reference, I had the exact components on my m69 as did the OP. The shim did indeed cure the problem.
However before I went the shim route I tried a Weigand mount and still had the problem.
I should add that I have Weigands/Holosun's on two GP100, a Security Six and a couple of Blackhawks with zero problems.
So in retrospect, I believe the red dot on a M69 problem lies with the mounting surface on the M69 and not the Holosun.
And btw, I read about the shim fix on the Pro Board site.


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I want to put a dot on my 686 Pro Series 4" .357. The Model 686 is an L frame like the M69.


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MOGC,
The long gone M69 was my only Smith. Sorry I can't help with your L frame.


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Originally Posted by MOGC
I want to put a dot on my 686 Pro Series 4" .357. The Model 686 is an L frame like the M69.
Worst case scenario, buy the shim $12.00 bucks!
I also have a weigand scope base but i think my sight would of sat way to high if i used it.

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Originally Posted by 7887mm08
Originally Posted by MOGC
I want to put a dot on my 686 Pro Series 4" .357. The Model 686 is an L frame like the M69.
Worst case scenario, buy the shim $12.00 bucks!
I also have a weigand scope base but i think my sight would of sat way to high if i used it.

You're right, it's not a huge deal. If I can avoid shimming by using a different mount in the first place that would be preferable. If not, I'll shimmy.


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