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I would use the cheapest soft points before I ever used Barnes or hammers

Why? I have not used the Hammers yet but see very good reports for them. I have used the Barnes TSX bullets in deer and large hogs and have had excellent penetration and gone through bones no matter the angle including Texas heart shots. This has been with the .223, .243, .280 and .30-06

I was looking forward to trying the Hammers in my .250 Savage and .375 JDJ Contender barrels but if you know something I don’t please let me know

Why in the world would anyone choose narrow pencil wound channels versus large wide wound channels.

If you want to poke narrow holes, use 100% copper. If you want devastating wound channels use a bullet like a eldm or berger.

People fret about penetration for no reason. But if you make azz shots a habit, maybe stick to whatever works for azz shots.

Why in the world would someone choose eldm or Berger over ttsx for elk?!?
Ttsx any day of the week..

Because they create more trauma

If a bullet will penetrate a from back to front it should penetrate an Elk from the side. I don’t get pencil holes because I put them through bone when possible. I don’t like to track. I have put a TTSX (I forgot to say I have used both the TSX and TTSX above) through two pigs that were nice enough to line up side by side. Expansion is useless without penetration

Eldm's penetrate just fine. Elk scapulas are not made of magic impenetrable substances, it's a thin bone.

By all means, keep shooting whatever magic bullet you want.

I haven’t tried the Berger or Eldm since the Barnes have worked for me. I will give them a look. As for ass shooting, I have only shot two deer with the Texas Heart shot because both were wounded by a hunting partner and were getting away (different people on each) when we were running dogs. The hogs are shot any which way you can because they are pests in Florida

Sound like you don’t have enough experience with ttsx or elk.
Elk aren’t bullet proof but you can keep your Grenades.
As mentioned earlier, your expansion will be useless with out penetration.
I have more respect for the animals than to use (M)atch bullets on thick skin and heavy boned animal

Grenades? Lol

Ya after they obliterate the onside shoulder and grenade the internal organs.

I'm sure you've seen bullets evaporate, in your own imagination.

Never shot an elk, a man to get good advice from!!!!

I never lost an elk to a partition. I have lost one with a 150 TTSX 7 mag hit heart height in the front leg. Big cow at 400 yards. Lost faith in Barnes after that.

Which would be why I said take it for what it is worth. Never claimed to be an internet expert. My only experience is through writers Wooters and Milek and some others. I stated what I would do in his situation. Sorry if I stepped on your feelers. Maybe you should have a Bud Light?

And You sir, can keep imagining that match bullets will be busting through elks shoulders. Ugh.
I’ve busted elk shoulder with ttsx and while the bullet kept penetrating, maybe do the angle or what not, it missed the vitals. he required a 2nd shot when he stopped after running down a ravine and back up on the other side.
No way I’d try that with match bullets.
You do you bud.

Would think that a .270Win/150 gr. at ~ 2800 fps, from a rifle w/ a good pad, would due nicely.

... or, a TSX 140 gr. a little faster.




GR

Experience doesn't always equate to wisdom.

Yea.....agreed.

Where does the 6mm bullet land, in comparison?

I don't have to imagine schiet. I packed out three bulls last season that were killed with eldm's and an sst.

The bull I shot was sub 60yds, 140gr eldm. Broke the onside shoulder and exited. Same for another at 200yds. I think the sst was around 200 as well albeit from a 308.

No barnes b.s. needed. For the 50th time, elk are not bulletproof.

I agree, even though I have never shot an Elk, but since he was looking for a lighter caliber would not premium bullets be a better choice? I am in the Elk forum to learn

"Premium"...to who? "Light caliber"...to who? Stop lapping up regurgitated wives tales.

I will be shooting a 105bthp this year for bear, deer, elk, antelope...and not think twice. I would use a 100gr power point, eldm, eldx, berger...but my 6 creed barrel like the 105s.