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X-Bolt Speed LR26" Bbl./7.5T/.270Win. Elegant solution. Will this become the Std. for the 21st Century? GR
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Why would it? Great 7mm bullets are everywhere.
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It be as good as 280, 30-06, 6.5-06, and so on and so on. It’s where you hit them that counts. Grandkids slay hell out of pigs and deer with a 243
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Wonder if they keep a Standard 270 SAAMI chamber in it?
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Look pretty sweet. May buy one eventually. Just bought an xbolt speed SR (first xbolt) and am impressed so far
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Wonder if they keep a Standard 270 SAAMI chamber in it? Advertising that it shoots factory .270Win ammo. ... and hand-loaders can load heavier. 165 gr. ABLR would be an interesting affair past 300 yards. Have an old pencil Bbl. M700 that have been threatening to do this to, albeit a 24" Bbl. w/o brake. Be interesting to see how fast they push it. If this trends - it might also drive production of heavier Partitions as well. GR
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Nope, just like the 6.8, 17 wsm etc.
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It be as good as 280, 30-06, 6.5-06, and so on and so on. It’s where you hit them that counts. Grandkids slay hell out of pigs and deer with a 243 Think it is more about the longer ranges and maybe heavier game. Heavier, more efficient bullets. And, it can still shoot regular .270Win/150 gr. The caliber has already proven that it works reliably. If it can push 165 gr. high BC bullets, w/ an SD of 0.307, to .280/175 gr. (SD=0.310) velocities? It will then possess that same performance, with less recoil. Something that it has lacked. GR
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Nope, just like the 6.8, 17 wsm etc. More like the .280 AI, which is thought to be ideal. And w/o all the hassle of fire-forming cases. GR
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I see nothing wrong with it, if its your cup of tea. I would be interested in it
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Nope, just like the 6.8, 17 wsm etc. More like the .280 AI, which is thought to be ideal. And w/o all the hassle of fire-forming cases. GR Where have you been? The 280AI is a SAAMI chambering, and factory rifles, factory ammo, and good brass is available. And with a great many more good 7mm bullets available, why not just get the "ideal" ?
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Nope, just like the 6.8, 17 wsm etc. More like the .280 AI, which is thought to be ideal. And w/o all the hassle of fire-forming cases. GR Where have you been? The 280AI is a SAAMI chambering, and factory rifles, factory ammo, and good brass is available. And with a great many more good 7mm bullets available, why not just get the "ideal" ? 7mms need so many bullets just to come close to the great 270/130 combo which killed more game than most of the 7mms combined:) Also why have 7mm when there are far more bullets in 30 than 7mm. Only a few more 7mm bullets than 270 but literally 2-3x 30 cals than either. Silly and unimaginative argument. I would expect better from the fire home of the rifle loony Lou
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Nope, just like the 6.8, 17 wsm etc. More like the .280 AI, which is thought to be ideal. And w/o all the hassle of fire-forming cases. GR Where have you been? The 280AI is a SAAMI chambering, and factory rifles, factory ammo, and good brass is available. And with a great many more good 7mm bullets available, why not just get the "ideal" ? 7mms need so many bullets just to come close to the great 270/130 combo which killed more game than most of the 7mms combined:) Also why have 7mm when there are far more bullets in 30 than 7mm. Only a few more 7mm bullets than 270 but literally 2-3x 30 cals than either. Silly and unimaginative argument. I would expect better from the fire home of the rifle loony Lou Please read again. I said "good" 7mm bullets. To simplify, I meant bullets with high BC (not 277/130). The OP seems to be interested in a rifle with long range capability, so a 7mm would be the obvious choice based on high BC 7mm bullet selection. A 6.5 would have advantages too. I do love the 30, and I have a bunch. But the recoil of a 30 with 200 grain plus high BC bullets is more than I like, or need.
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I was pulling your chain a bit since you are crumudging the 270 fun a lot of 270 fans have waited for
As for obvious 7mm these days. I dont agree. The 270 now as 165 ablr, 170 berger vld, 170 nosler ballistic tip, 155 barnes lrx, and sierra 175 tgk. Not to mention some good stuff from the smaller guys like badlands, cuting edge, and hammers. All excellent high bc heavy and “heavy for a mono” hunting bullets. No reason to choose a 7mm unless you want to shoot the real heavyweights like berger 195 or want to shoot match bullets. I and a lot of other hunters would not use match bullets for hunting so that leaves the really heavy 7mms which are icbms which would only show a real benefit over a lighter 7mm or 270 higher bc in some specialized instances. That is how one can rationalize a 270 choice if you are struggling to understand:)
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And if the military adopts the .277 bore, 7mm and 6.5mm will probably be obsolete in 10 years.
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I was pulling your chain a bit since you are crumudging the 270 fun a lot of 270 fans have waited for Sorry Lou. I guess I'm just a "glass is half empty" guy. That is how one can rationalize a 270 choice if you are struggling to understand:) I do understand. As they say, you can rationalize anything. And if the military adopts the .277 bore, 7mm and 6.5mm will probably be obsolete in 10 years. I'll wait
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Pre-Speed Browning Carbon Fiber X-Bolt, 270 WSM, 150 gr. Berger Hybrid Browning X-Bolt Hunter, 308 Win., 150 gr. Norma factory soft points. Hell's Canyon Speed, 26 Nosler, 142 Gr. LRAB Browning Max Long Range, 6.5 PRC, 143 gr. Hornady Black, 143 gr. ELD-X Browning Max Long Range, 6.8 Western, 170 Gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips Prefer the brakes that have the same O/D profile of the barrel, but what the hey, that can be changed on the newer species. Triggers could be a touch lighter but accuracy in mine has been superb. ya! GWB
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Nope, just like the 6.8, 17 wsm etc. More like the .280 AI, which is thought to be ideal. And w/o all the hassle of fire-forming cases. GR Where have you been? The 280AI is a SAAMI chambering, and factory rifles, factory ammo, and good brass is available. And with a great many more good 7mm bullets available, why not just get the "ideal" ? Because the .280 AI is just barely a legitimate cartridge... for now, and for how long? Who Doesn't chamber for the .270Win? Am reloading quality PPU .270Win brass, harvested from $13/20 box factory ammo. The bullet market is just now starting to respond to the new high-twist/BC .277" demand, and there are quite a few already. It is now THE military caliber. And if the high BC bullets, or similar SD heavy bullets, perform the same, they will do it with less recoil. The .270Win Is Ideal... save the SAAMI twist rate. GR
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