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https://katv.com/amp/news/local/ark...titution-supreme-court-tom-mars-law-firmLong story short a school district in southern AR had pics posted of students reading the Bible (3rd party donated- most likely the Gideons) and the students were reading them as was their right. Also there were pics of kids at the district’s preschool praying at lunch, also their right. Needless to say libs went apoplectic. Get a load of this steaming pile of horse nuggets from the Freedom From Religion Foundation: “People just really want to be able to send their children to school, especially young children, knowing that teachers and everyone else in the school is going to respect parents' right to determine how they raise their children," she said. I wonder how she feels about trans grooming in schools. But I know I don’t have to ask.
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I’ve always questioned the strength in the belief system of folks who go nuts at the mere mention of Jesus or the Bible. It doesn’t appear they are very confident at all.
I find it sad that people don’t believe, but in the end it is their choice. No need to get all worked up about it. I merely want them to have the information so they can make an informed choice.
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https://katv.com/amp/news/local/ark...titution-supreme-court-tom-mars-law-firmLong story short a school district in southern AR had pics posted of students reading the Bible (3rd party donated- most likely the Gideons) and the students were reading them as was their right. Also there were pics of kids at the district’s preschool praying at lunch, also their right. Needless to say libs went apoplectic. Get a load of this steaming pile of horse nuggets from the Freedom From Religion Foundation: “People just really want to be able to send their children to school, especially young children, knowing that teachers and everyone else in the school is going to respect parents' right to determine how they raise their children," she said. I wonder how she feels about trans grooming in schools. But I know I don’t have to ask. Yes , drag queen story hour would be perfectly fine with her type.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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"I wont trample on your right to NOT believe - if you don't trample on my right TO believe."
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Freedom to practice and believe in whatever religion is our right. Freedom to advertise and push your religion on government property is not... if your not OK with that put your kids in private school.
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Freedom to practice and believe in whatever religion is our right. Freedom to advertise and push your religion on government property is not... if your not OK with that put your kids in private school.
Phil You are actually wrong. The first amendment prevents the federal government from enacting a government sponsored religion. That is all. The often quoted “separation of church and state” appears nowhere in our constitution or any other legally binding document I am aware of. In the early days of our country, several states actually had a state religion. This was permissible. Only the federal government was not allowed to do this.
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“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
(Situation A.) Under the “establishment” clause of the First Amendment, and in line with U.S. Supreme Court rulings, public schools may not impose prayer or other religious practices on students, even if students are not required to participate. The first religion clause says government and its agencies are prohibited from establishing or requiring religion, including official attempts to impose or instill beliefs in students. This prohibition prevents government from setting up a national religion, and from favoring one religion over another. Therefore, prayers may not be broadcast over the school public-address system.
(Situation B.) Under the “free exercise” clause of the First Amendment, and in line with U.S. Supreme Court rulings, public schools may not prevent students from expressing or sharing religious beliefs, as long as their doing so does not disrupt the school. The second religion clause says government and its agencies may not forbid or interfere with individuals’ practice of religion. Public school students therefore may pray, alone or in groups, silently or aloud, as long as classes and non-participating students are not disturbed. Students may bring religious texts to school and read and discuss them.
In other words, public schools can not be for or against any religion, or seemingly to suggest one or the other or any.
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In other words, public schools can not be for or against any religion, or seemingly to suggest one or the other or any.
Phil Yes, they can't make, say, the Church of England the official US church. But they can promote Christianity, which is not a religion.
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I understand you are going by flawed decisions. I am going by logical and moral consistency.
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In other words, public schools can not be for or against any religion, or seemingly to suggest one or the other or any.
Phil Yes, they can't make, say, the Church of England the official US church. But they can promote Christianity, which is not a religion. Whoa there Tyrone...there are about 20 major case law decisions that at the VERY LEAST require equal exposure to creationism and evolution science. Epperson v Arkansas is probably the most famous...the state of Ark passed a law banning instruction of evolution, Louisiana also.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I understand you are going by flawed decisions. I am going by logical and moral consistency. I’m going by the actual text of the first amendment.
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In other words, public schools can not be for or against any religion, or seemingly to suggest one or the other or any.
Phil Yes, they can't make, say, the Church of England the official US church. But they can promote Christianity, which is not a religion. Christianity is absolutely a "Religion" composed of many denominations. A Religion which about 75% of the world would claim is false, despite millions dying in wars which attempted to forcibly convert the rest of the world to Christianity.
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In other words, public schools can not be for or against any religion, or seemingly to suggest one or the other or any.
Phil Yes, they can't make, say, the Church of England the official US church. But they can promote Christianity, which is not a religion. Christianity is absolutely a "Religion" composed of many denominations. No, the Lutheran Church is a religion. SBC is a religion. LDS is a religion. The 1st Amendment was added to prevent the establishment of a "Church of the US" in the mold of the Church of England, an official state church.
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Since the title is about leftist hypocrisy - I see that Sen. Fetterfloogy is making a habit of wearing a hoody and shorts during sessions of congress. That's strictly against the senate dress codes which have been held to tight standards for 250 years. They're just ignoring his flaunting of their own rules. The sgt at arms is charged with enforcing the rules but the current one, Karen Gibson, is a Schumer appointee who seems a bit on the left wing side.
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The school isn’t imposing or pushing anything. Third parties are allowed to pass out bibles and the Gideons have been doing so for decades. Technically I guess the church of satan could pass out texts.
JoeBob: My comment about hypocrisy was in the content of the statement about parents having the right to raise their kids how they see fit.
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"I wont trample on your right to NOT believe - if you don't trample on my right TO believe." Thank you.
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