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I have a 9.25".....but the barrels too heavy....get it? Thats all the double entendre's I can can manage on short notice.

But seriously now, I did look at the RAR and might go that route but the VG seems like a little more rifle for the same price. Usually they are $200 more than the RAR but they are clearing them out right now so they are priced the same. I'd love a 6.5 Creedmoor in the VG but have come up empty in my search for one.

I haven't been a rifle looney as long as most on here, but I am 44 years old and I've never personally seen a rifle in either of those cartridges.

As to the OP's question, I've owned one Vanguard S2 in 257Wby. It was an accurate, well made rifle. It was on the heavy side, but I liked the 2-stage trigger. A friend of mine borrowed it and had to have it so I sold it to him. I still reload for him.

Not everybody is as young as you are, so for some folks those cartridges bring back nostalgic memories. I started reloading when I was 12, so that I could afford to feed my 250-3000s. While I would never recommend either cartridge to a person who doesn't reload, both are still as capable as the rifles from which they are fired and the guys who are behind the triggers.

Agreed but My MAIN point is ".." above.

Jerry

I agree that "obsolete" cartridges aren't for everybody, but "practical" and "easy" aren't significant factors in some folks' decision hierarchy.

.250 brass is easily made from .22/250 brass by the COW method, or so I've read. .300 brass might be a bit tougher.

The only reason I'd tackle a .300 would be to use a neat old rifle, otherwise the .308 makes more sense in every way. That reason applies to the .250 as well, but there are a number of special-run Rugers out there that are very nice and sometimes NIB. A Hawkeye .250 RSI pushing 115gr Noslers at 2500 or so would be a great woods gun, no more effective than a .243 maybe, but much cooler. There are also a few stainless/walnut Number 1s.

Thanks for the compliment but next month I'll be 66 YO.

In 1972 I was 22 yo. That's when I began deer hunting and began my gun loonyism. JFYI.

Jerry

You can walk into any Academy Sports in Georgia and find .300 Savage ammo on the shelf!!


Mike

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Okay but that really surprises me. I don't remember when I saw any 300 Savage ammo on a shelf. Now mind you, I haven't done a search for it but most of the time in the past year finding very much of any ammo has been unusual around here.

Jerry

Yes Sir I understand when you couldn't find anything mainstream it must have been right after Remington did their seasonal run of .300 because it was and largely still is on the shelf when you couldn't get anything else.

Just luck in timing I guess!

Mike

To add a lil to this 250 convo, Ive owned two of em. I love that caliber!! Im 37 now, have owned 1 since I was 12. Its an 1899 take down with deluxe wood. I rebarrelled it a few years ago and it shoots fantastic. Ive taken many many deer with it over the years and would use it on elk if the chance presented itself. Brass is easy to form by necking up 22-250 which is cheap and easy to find.

About the original post, I just got my Vanguard 2 weeks ago. Its 257 Weatherby. I like it a lot and am very pleased with quality, accuracy and just about everything. A great gun for not a ton of money, which is an added bonus.

I can get a .223 Rem. compct for $629 plus tax. I am not sure it is a 1 or 2 though. . I might trade my Sav. 12fv with a bull barrel in for it. I like the Savage for the bench , but that is all it id good for.

I had one about 8 years ago in 338 WM. It shot 3/4” groups. It was a really good rifle, just a little heavy.

I so want a left hand 250-3000

Although I do like to keep my case headstamps straight, I promised myself I could neck up 22-250 brass to load for my 250-3000 if it ever came to that. I have not noticed a shortage of 22-250 brass. I have a tang safety Ruger M77 International and it's not going anywhere soon.

I bought a 7mm08 vanguard s2 sporter and it shot 3 to 4 inch groups at a hundred yards. fit and finish was good, but the savage axis and mossberg patriot shoots circles around it. Even after a 20 round clean after every shot break in, the rough cut rifling still collected copper deposits like bee's to honey. I really wanted to like it, but i'll never buy another

Only issue for me was a need to float the barrel. Removing the forearm pressure point lowered point of impact 7 inches at 100 yds. That process did away with vertical stringing as it warmed, and dis and reassembly a non issue for sustaining zero.

Same issues with Mark V's. Accumarks were already floated.

Unless I’m mistaken, Vanguards built by Howa have hammer forged barrels, not cut rifling. Just sayin’.

I had one in 6.5 Crudmoor, very accurate rifle!

I only have one, a 6.5-300 Wby and it seems to be very accurate. Everyone I have known who has owned them proclaimed their fine accuracy.