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"Russia sucks." ---- Me, US Army (retired) 12B & 51B
Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".
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Today's Uktard reality check.
Maybe Hungary know something that the Uktards can't accept.....Ukraine is toast.
That, and they don't want to he dodging nukes.
It's "Obvious" There Will Be "No Victory For The Poor Ukrainians": Viktor Orban Tyler Durden's Photo by Tyler Durden Tuesday, May 23, 2023 - 12:05 PM
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has once again spoken the quiet part out loud, as he continues to be a thorn in the side of NATO and the EU regarding continually escalating arms deliveries to Ukraine, with F-16 fighter jets poised to be delivered to Kiev in the near future.
The first day of the annual Qatar Economic Forum (QEF) included a speech and on-stage interview by Orban wherein he bluntly stated that Ukraine can't win the war against Russia, short of NATO directly sending troops - which it isn't willing to do, and which Hungary stands against. PM Viktor Orban in Doha, via Qatar News Agency
He also reminded the West that the Hungarian government isn't part of the "mainstream" European Union approach to the war, but has pursued attempts at peaceful negotiations.
"The only solution is ceasefire, and then after the ceasefire, peace talks should start," he said. He explained this is the only path forward given Kiev can't win.
As Bloomberg reports, "Hungary was in talks with Qatar to buy gas in an effort to reduce its reliance on Russia for energy and for help to buy Budapest airport," according to Orban's words.
He had been pressed over the question of Hungary blocking more defense aid to Ukraine, and in that context asserted that ultimately Russia and the US must make a deal to end the war, which is "the only way out":
“Looking at the reality, the figures, the surroundings, the fact that NATO is not ready to send troops, it is obvious that there is no victory for the poor Ukrainians on the battlefield. That’s my position,” he said, offering an outlook few European leaders would publicly agree with, given their solidarity with Kyiv.
“The war can be stopped only if the Russians can make an agreement with the US. In Europe, we are not happy with that, but it’s the only way out.”
His assessment, which is likely going to be deeply unpopular and somewhat divisive in terms of public reception, comes just on the heels of the weekend Russian capture of Bakhmut, which was announced by Wagner Group raising the Russian flag over the strategic city.
Despite initial Ukrainian officials rejecting that Bakhmut had fallen, at this point there's widespread acknowledgement both in international press reports and among Western officials that Russia exercises effective control of the city. Wagner is due to hand captured territory over to regular Russian military forces by June 1.
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Well there it is for the Contrarian Uke Puppets <houston, dd, .......> Despite initial Ukrainian officials rejecting that Bakhmut had fallen, at this point there's widespread acknowledgement both in international press reports and among Western officials that Russia exercises effective control of the city. Wagner is due to hand captured territory over to regular Russian military forces by June 1.
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How stupid are leftists dimocommies like old toot/Houston_2?
They tell a lie so good to them that when they read it they believe it. You believe and promote the lie that Obama and George Clooney raped, killed, and actually ate a little girl, after being photographed with her in public. You are in no position whatsoever to criticize what others believe.
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I'm so sad we haven't been provided regurgitated talking points from wsj or msnbc. They must be creating some. LMAO
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Well, they have dug triple lines of trenches WWII style. So it doesn't look like they plan on advancing.
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Well, they have dug triple lines of trenches WWII style. So it doesn't look like they plan on advancing. Around Bahkmut?
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How stupid are leftists dimocommies like old toot/Houston_2?
They tell a lie so good to them that when they read it they believe it. You believe and promote the lie that Obama and George Clooney raped, killed, and actually ate a little girl, after being photographed with her in public. You are in no position whatsoever to criticize what others believe. He really posted that??? I stopped reading his posts a long time ago....
Please don't feed the trolls!
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Pretty much a bloody stalemate at present with Russia seeming to have a slight advantage. We should be trying to find a negotiated settlement as I don't see any clear victor any time soon and plenty of people are dying on both sides.
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Says direct drivel goebbels....
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How stupid are leftists dimocommies like old toot/Houston_2?
They tell a lie so good to them that when they read it they believe it. You believe and promote the lie that Obama and George Clooney raped, killed, and actually ate a little girl, after being photographed with her in public. You are in no position whatsoever to criticize what others believe. He really posted that??? I stopped reading his posts a long time ago.... Yes. Yes he did. It's in the SU-27 thread. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...ane-collision-with-us-drone#Post18239611What your crew has brought America to,Gayghost, Sickermore, Lostinhell, Plumbdumb and Houston_2 She looks dead in the lower right pics, you fugking POS pukes. image host free
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Where is John? Did Jeff Leisy tell him to crawl back in his hole?
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Where is John? Did Jeff Leisy tell him to crawl back in his hole? Hope he didn't get fired. I'm sure he is irreplaceable.
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Where is John? Did Jeff Leisy tell him to crawl back in his hole? Hope he didn't get fired. I'm sure he is irreplaceable. Not many men his age lack a gag reflex.
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Maybe Burns is in a 28 day rehab program?
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Maybe Burns is in INSANE ASYLUM?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Plumdumd believes these are pics of the same POS. Why, the MSM said it was the same guy. Plumdumb believes this POS on the left was born in Hawaii and the Governor couldn't find any record of a Birth Certificate. Plumdumb believes the border is closed. CNN told him.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I do not believe Biden has been replaced by an android, alien, robot, lizard person, or a double or whatever crazy theory you are espousing.
Looks like he is old and had a face lift. I have seen worse and so have you. Mickey Roarke, Kenny Rogers, many many others.
FFS jag get help. Nobody needs a double for Biden, he is old enough to be mush-brained anyways. If "they" have the resources to clone him or whatever you imagine happened, they would have the resources to yank the current model which gets lost on a small stage.
Biden has dementia. It is that simple. No need to gin up your ridiculous conspiracy stories. FFS.
I don't know where Obama was born and neither do you, you weren't there.
Nobody here thinks the border is closed.
Now back to Obama and Clooney - Jag actually believes they are rape cannibals. I posted where he said so.
Jag, you will find no posts whatsoever supporting what you said about me.
You are a name-calling liar. Who believes Obama and George Clooney actually raped, killed, and ate a little girl after being photographed with her in public.
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Burns is in time out, by his employer. At least it was his employer....
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