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Sure they are, in your mind... that's why they are giving them all the high tech tanks, artillery, long range cruise missiles and now the F-16's, not to mention making sure they are converted to handle all the newest ordinance...
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Ever hear of the Minsk Agreement ?
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{lol}, you can't make up your mind which way you want to float, can you? That agreement was ignored back in 2014 when it should have been honored just as if they belonged to NATO. Big mistake on our part. But nowhere in that agreement does it say that Ukraine should stand by and just let Russia invade and occupy their country and they should just lay down for it. And believe me, THEY WON'T....
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{lol}, you can't make up your mind which way you want to float, can you? That agreement was ignored back in 2014 when it should have been honored just as if they belonged to NATO. Big mistake on our part. But nowhere in that agreement does it say that Ukraine should stand by and just let Russia invade and occupy their country and they should just lay down for it. And believe me, THEY WON'T....
Phil People that voted California into it's current state are difficult to take seriously.
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But nowhere in that agreement does it say that Ukraine should stand by and just let Russia invade and occupy their country and they should just lay down for it. And believe me, THEY WON'T....
Phil Great. I'm wholeheartedly in favor of them fighting to the last man, and killing plenty of Russians along the way. I'm in favor if them doing it without our Treasury and manpower.
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�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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But nowhere in that agreement does it say that Ukraine should stand by and just let Russia invade and occupy their country and they should just lay down for it. And believe me, THEY WON'T....
Phil Great. I'm wholeheartedly in favor of them fighting to the last man, and killing plenty of Russians along the way. I'm in favor if them doing it without our Treasury and manpower. How do you feel about over 20,000 American troops on the Ukraine border? Should the US enter the war and escalate it? If the did would you go over and fight with your military age family members?
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May come to that, should they fall, so will NATO and the EU won't want anything to do with us... now that would give Russia, China and trump a free hand.
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But nowhere in that agreement does it say that Ukraine should stand by and just let Russia invade and occupy their country and they should just lay down for it. And believe me, THEY WON'T....
Phil Great. I'm wholeheartedly in favor of them fighting to the last man, and killing plenty of Russians along the way. I'm in favor if them doing it without our Treasury and manpower. How do you feel about over 20,000 American troops on the Ukraine border? Should the US enter the war and escalate it? If the did would you go over and fight with your military age family members? I would think the 'without our treasury and manpower' statement would cover that, no?
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�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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For the ignorant southern California types, the Minsk Agreement was to let the donbas vote for who they wanted to align to...Russia or Ukraine.
Of course is was a sham, and the west had no intention of honoring it.
Post 2014, the Ukrainian nazis, who you support, began slaughtering Russian speaking civilians in the Donbas.
You have no idea as to the history of Ukraine...zero.
Now, you and your ilk want to start WWIII by trying to conquer Russia. The war isn't about Ukraine or freedom, it's about taking over a nuclear power state.
All you neocons think if you remove putin, you can just waltz right into Moscow for a ticker tape parade. I got news for you, the people in line to take over would just as soon nuke Kiev to send a message.
How'd regime change work out in other places ?
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Have you fools already forgotten the other 3 previous USSR countries Russia has taken over in the last 20 or so years... Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia. Ukraine was supposed to be #4. Russia, as long as putin is still in place won't stop until all are taken back into their fold. Ukraine should it fall, will show putin that the west will give them a free hand to go ahead and take over the other 11 countries without anyone to try and stop them.
trump was supposed to give it to them...
Phil Who gives a flying phuqe you GD idiot? I wouldn’t care if Russia rolled all the way to the English Channel. Couldn’t be any worse than the Eurofags in charge now. Only a completely brain dead moron would think any of this is worth risking a nuclear war. You are truly too stupid to pour piss out of a boot.
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May come to that, should they fall, so will NATO and the EU won't want anything to do with us... now that would give Russia, China and trump a free hand.
Phil You guys need to get your story straight. Is the Russian military so incapable that they can't even beat Ukraine, or are they an invincible force poised to take over all of Europe?
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May come to that, should they fall, so will NATO and the EU won't want anything to do with us... now that would give Russia, China and trump a free hand.
Phil You guys need to get your story straight. Is the Russian military so incapable that they can't even beat Ukraine, or are they an invincible force poised to take over all of Europe? LOL.
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Only a completely brain dead moron would think any of this is worth risking a nuclear war. Putin threatens nukes, you pee your pants and appease him. He counts on people like you, to act like people like you.
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Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".
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It's called Artemovsk now.
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Have you fools already forgotten the other 3 previous USSR countries Russia has taken over in the last 20 or so years... Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia. Ukraine was supposed to be #4. Russia, as long as putin is still in place won't stop until all are taken back into their fold. Ukraine should it fall, will show putin that the west will give them a free hand to go ahead and take over the other 11 countries without anyone to try and stop them.
trump was supposed to give it to them...
Phil Who gives a flying phuqe you GD idiot? I wouldn’t care if Russia rolled all the way to the English Channel. Couldn’t be any worse than the Eurofags in charge now. Only a completely brain dead moron would think any of this is worth risking a nuclear war. You are truly too stupid to pour piss out of a boot. These brain dead morons must actually think they won’t in any way be effected by a nuclear conflict with Russia. They must think they are going to watch A bombs going off in Russia on CNN then load the kids up and off to a softball game.
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Who gives a flying phuqe you GD idiot? I wouldn’t care if Russia rolled all the way to the English Channel. Couldn’t be any worse than the Eurofags in charge now. Only a completely brain dead moron would think any of this is worth risking a nuclear war. You are truly too stupid to pour piss out of a boot. And fhuge that sawed off POS Zelinksi too
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Only a completely brain dead moron would think any of this is worth risking a nuclear war. Putin threatens nukes, you pee your pants and appease him. He counts on people like you, to act like people like you. Is that any worse than the folks that are crying that we have to stop Russia now, or we'll be fighting them in Toledo?
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But nowhere in that agreement does it say that Ukraine should stand by and just let Russia invade and occupy their country and they should just lay down for it. And believe me, THEY WON'T....
Phil Great. I'm wholeheartedly in favor of them fighting to the last man, and killing plenty of Russians along the way. I'm in favor if them doing it without our Treasury and manpower. How do you feel about over 20,000 American troops on the Ukraine border? Should the US enter the war and escalate it? If the did would you go over and fight with your military age family members? I would think the 'without our treasury and manpower' statement would cover that, no? It does and it did….some people are so entrenched in their position for and against involvement in a country that is none of our business that they HAVE to argue even with those whom share the same opinions. FWIW…. I completely agree with George. Let them kill each other to the last man without one more American dollar and NO AMERICAN LIVES! If any Americans want to fight for Ukraine let the liberals go!
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