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That one doesn't hold up either.

"Karen is a pejorative term used as slang for a white woman perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal."

5 pages of this and I am a little lost. I am reading this like hunters were trespassing on private land (corner of the property) to get to public land that is otherwise inaccessible from that area. Is that correct?

You don’t even own a suppressor, Karen.

The hunters never set foot on private property. The private property owner wanted sole control of public land he does not own.


This explains it better.

https://amerisurv.com/2023/02/09/corner-crossing/

Slippery slope but I understand now, thank you.

So I can hop the corner this Summer?

I don't own a jet either, yet I understand the principles of how they fly.

You ignore facts to suit your own narrative. In this exchange alone you are ignoring the info about survey markers already being in place and how decibel levels affect hearing.

Sure , Karen. Sure. Keep speaking based on your Google experience ya fugking idiot.

Not sure about slippery slope. No foot was set on private property and the owner even harassed people who flew aircraft in to the publicly owned land.

I am aware of a couple of incidents in the 1980's where people were in the process of buying a narrow strip of land from a public agency surrounding a large area of publicly owned land and another where property owners were selling a large tract of land to a public agency less a owned tract completely surrounding what was to be publicly owned and both attempts got torpedoed.

Been aware of how planes fly, suppressors operate, hearing damage from sound exposure, and property corners long before Google existed.

Bottom line is the four hunters did everything in their power to ensure they did not trespass. That shows lack of intent. They did not intend to trespass as they used GPS, found the corner survey marker, and crossed. Even when the private land owner interfered with the public air space by running a chain from two t-posts at their corners, they used a ladder to ensure they didn't step foot on private.

Common sense has prevailed.

No, you haven’t. Shut the fugk up.

Slippery slope in terms of future non-hunting or public land related legal opinions based on this particular case. A good lawyer could even twist it into an eminent domain issue.

There should be an easement in to it.

§1063. Obstruction of settlement on or transit over public lands
No person, by force, threats, intimidation, or by any fencing or inclosing, or any other unlawful means, shall prevent or obstruct, or shall combine and confederate with others to prevent or obstruct, any person from peaceably entering upon or establishing a settlement or residence on any tract of public land subject to settlement or entry under the public land laws of the United States, or shall prevent or obstruct free passage or transit over or through the public lands: Provided, This section shall not be held to affect the right or title of persons, who have gone upon, improved, or occupied said lands under the land laws of the United States, claiming title thereto, in good faith.

(Feb. 25, 1885, ch. 149, §3, 23 Stat. 322.)

Is that federal law?

My point in my comment about a slippery slope is, one could use that particular ruling in another state such as where I reside to levy the use of eminent domain for things such as power lines and the like. It would also be entirely possible to backdoor force proffers for certain private projects that trigger laws such as stormwater management and phosphorus/nitrogen reduction.

Then they would be wrong too.

I bring up the pheasant hunters because just like the corner jumpers they think they have a right to use of what others have spent their blood, sweat, and tears to buy and build.

Wah, wah, fugging wah, he has it and I want to run across it! And I want someone else to pay for it! Fugging Socialists!

You can not cross a piece of property without trespassing upon that property, unless you are in FAA controlled airspace. I do not know about other states. I can only use Idaho as an example. In Idaho trespassing includes the words "to cause a force to cross said property". Specifically, you can not shoot across another property. Jumping over the property would seem to be in the same vein.

Let's put it this way. Can I go buy a drone and fly it around in your back yard six feet off the ground. Maybe I am filming your kids playing in the pool, maybe I am not. Maybe I am taking pictures through your windows, maybe I am not. Point being, according to many here, I am not trespassing as long as the drone does not touch the ground.

Most of us here would blow the drone right out of the sky and think we were quite justified.

Had I been the judge in this case, I would have awarded Eshelman $1 in damages and told the hunters next time they would by subject to all trespass penalties.

As I have said many times, If you want to cross another's property, figure out just what it is worth in $ to do so, and see if the property owner will agree. If not, hire that helicopter.

Read that last sentence again carefully.

Once you have clear title to land, you have the right to prevent trespass.

You know what guys. This has all been hashed out in the 19th century. Most of these laws were established over 100 years ago. And the law properly adjudicated since.

So now a bunch of Socialists want to rewrite the laws and take what others have bought and paid for.

FINE! Pay them what it is worth!

Talking right out of your ass...

Do yourself a favor and read the summary judgement. I'd also brace yourself because corner crossing is now legal to access public lands in Wyoming. Will be legal elsewhere, including Idaho soon enough.

YES? And how many millions will you personally pocket of the money donated to make this Socialist dream come true?

But you are still too fugging cheap to pay for a helicopter.


Lots of laws get changed to fit the Communist agenda. Does not make it right. But hell that pesky Constitution is a "Living Document" and all that schitt.

Fugk summary judgment and fugk you