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Is that federal law?

My point in my comment about a slippery slope is, one could use that particular ruling in another state such as where I reside to levy the use of eminent domain for things such as power lines and the like. It would also be entirely possible to backdoor force proffers for certain private projects that trigger laws such as stormwater management and phosphorus/nitrogen reduction.

Hey Buzz, where do you live? Give us an address. You will be talking out the other side of your mouth if a drone shows up in your back yard.

Read that last sentence again carefully.

Once you have clear title to land, you have the right to prevent trespass.

You know what guys. This has all been hashed out in the 19th century. Most of these laws were established over 100 years ago. And the law properly adjudicated since.

So now a bunch of Socialists want to rewrite the laws and take what others have bought and paid for.

FINE! Pay them what it is worth!

Read the UIA for starters, specifically the cases the judge cites. The precise reason the UIA was made law is to prohibit a landowner from denying or impeding access to public lands. Secondly, Wyoming Statute states clearly that the airspace on the corners is shared with the "several owners" meaning you can't build a fence to prohibit access.

The discussion here is of taking private lands (at public expense) to give a very few access through those private lands.

What in the Holy Hell is wrong with flying into the public lands? Except that the hunter is on the hook for the cost of the flight time, rather than foisting the cost onto the taxpayer?

What Eshelman wants is of no consequence!

Then they would be wrong too.

I bring up the pheasant hunters because just like the corner jumpers they think they have a right to use of what others have spent their blood, sweat, and tears to buy and build.

Wah, wah, fugging wah, he has it and I want to run across it! And I want someone else to pay for it! Fugging Socialists!

You can not cross a piece of property without trespassing upon that property, unless you are in FAA controlled airspace. I do not know about other states. I can only use Idaho as an example. In Idaho trespassing includes the words "to cause a force to cross said property". Specifically, you can not shoot across another property. Jumping over the property would seem to be in the same vein.

Let's put it this way. Can I go buy a drone and fly it around in your back yard six feet off the ground. Maybe I am filming your kids playing in the pool, maybe I am not. Maybe I am taking pictures through your windows, maybe I am not. Point being, according to many here, I am not trespassing as long as the drone does not touch the ground.

Most of us here would blow the drone right out of the sky and think we were quite justified.

Had I been the judge in this case, I would have awarded Eshelman $1 in damages and told the hunters next time they would by subject to all trespass penalties.

As I have said many times, If you want to cross another's property, figure out just what it is worth in $ to do so, and see if the property owner will agree. If not, hire that helicopter.

YES? And how many millions will you personally pocket of the money donated to make this Socialist dream come true?

But you are still too fugging cheap to pay for a helicopter.


Lots of laws get changed to fit the Communist agenda. Does not make it right. But hell that pesky Constitution is a "Living Document" and all that schitt.

The UIA is constitutional. How do you find it appropriate to keep 340 million public land owners from accessing their public lands by stepping from one piece of public land to another piece of public land?

The Federal Judge in this case applied the law as intended.

It's that simple...you can cry, gripe, pout all you want, but he ruled correctly.

Except someone already hired the aircraft and Eshelman proved his concern isn't trespass on land he owns, but is instead being able to control land he doesn't own.

I read the whole thing. What I haven't read is anything indicating Eshelman has "gone upon, improved, or occupied said lands under the land laws of the United States, claiming title thereto, in good faith" which seems to indicate homesteading the publicly owned tract in question. Why should anyone pay him for something he doesn't own?

The UIA is constitutional. How do you find it appropriate to keep 340 million public land owners from accessing their public lands by stepping from one piece of public land to another piece of public land?

The Federal Judge in this case applied the law as intended.

It's that simple...you can cry, gripe, pout all you want, but he ruled correctly.

Nobody gives a fugk buzzy[/qwizard
Well, I mean other than 340 million US citizens...you're " right" as always.

Did the imperial wizard let you light the crosses last night?

I read the whole thing. What I haven't read is anything indicating Eshelman has "gone upon, improved, or occupied said lands under the land laws of the United States, claiming title thereto, in good faith" which seems to indicate homesteading the publicly owned tract in question. Why should anyone pay him for something he doesn't own?

Except someone already hired the aircraft and Eshelman proved his concern isn't trespass on land he owns, but is instead being able to control land he doesn't own.

Nobody sets foot on private land corner crossing, period end of story.

That is an entirely different matter, and a damned good way for someone to die.

Try to force most people off of anywhere they have a perfectly good reason to be, is going to necessitate use of force. Which will lead to justified self defense.

Then they did not cross the property????????????? What a dumb ass!

340 million people????? What a crock of schitt!!!!!

More like you and 12 of your buddies. This is not Michigan with 400 deer to the acre.

We have yet to see what a real judge does with this on appeal.

Meanwhile, you just keep on keeping on. May you fill your pockets to overflowing.

Grift is what grifters do.