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Originally Posted by Rossimp
Every time I hear that the 7mm Rem Mag is a bit much for deer I wonder what experiences render that opinion. I can understand easterners in many areas could feel that way, but it’s a bit different out west in Nebraska, Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado and Montana. Flat shooting, less drifting shots are of great benefit. Pronghorns at 500+ yards are common in the later season. Trophy mule deer at long range is common, elk at long range is common. The 7mm Rem Mag with factory twist barrel can utilize 120-175 grain projectiles from 3,550 fps to roughly 3,000 fps. The 7mm Rem Mag is simply a 257 Wby on steroids. Very useful out west, maybe less so out east on whitetail deer.
It’s more than needed in terms of what it takes to kill deer, even at 400+ meters. In terms of what it takes to hit them where it counts when the wind blows, it may be just right.

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An OEM Big Green 7mm Rem Mag,will stabilize .796 BC 180's at 2900fps+,outta da' box. Hint.

That's Supersonic to 2000yds+ from SeaLevel and 1.3 Mil's full value wind,at the 1000yd line. I get it,that none of you Dumb Fhuqks actually shoot. Hint.

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I own four 7mm Rem Mag rifles. I have built several more for others. The 7mm Rem Mag is capable of very good accuracy, just like most other 7mm rifles with a quality barrel and at Belted Magnum performance levels to boot.


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Commercial ammunition manufacturers can kill whatever round they want, as simple as that. Look for 7x57, 35 Rem, 300 Sav, 250-3000 Sav, 257 Bob, hell, even 280 Rem and 243 Win are scase. Too many NKOTB.


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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Rossimp
Every time I hear that the 7mm Rem Mag is a bit much for deer I wonder what experiences render that opinion. I can understand easterners in many areas could feel that way, but it’s a bit different out west in Nebraska, Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado and Montana. Flat shooting, less drifting shots are of great benefit. Pronghorns at 500+ yards are common in the later season. Trophy mule deer at long range is common, elk at long range is common. The 7mm Rem Mag with factory twist barrel can utilize 120-175 grain projectiles from 3,550 fps to roughly 3,000 fps. The 7mm Rem Mag is simply a 257 Wby on steroids. Very useful out west, maybe less so out east on whitetail deer.
It’s more than needed in terms of what it takes to kill deer, even at 400+ meters. In terms of what it takes to hit them where it counts when the wind blows, it may be just right.
Hear, hear. (This is what folks used to say before "+1" was invented)
I know a family that kill their elk every year with a .243 Win. The boy said, "we just shot 'em right behind the shoulder and they go right down." And the key point here is they hit them in just the right spot, because they manage ranch land for a living and just wait until they get the opportunity to do just that.
Out on the windswept lands, the BC on the longer 7mm slugs really helps to put them in the right place, when you don't get to wait around for a month until your critter poses broadside at 60 yards.

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Originally Posted by Big Stick
An OEM Big Green 7mm Rem Mag,will stabilize .796 BC 180's at 2900fps+,outta da' box. Hint.

That's Supersonic to 2000yds+ from SeaLevel and 1.3 Mil's full value wind,at the 1000yd line. I get it,that none of you Dumb Fhuqks actually shoot. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............

I thought it was a good move to see Rem's using a 1/8 (at least on the specs) on their current production 7 Rem Mag's.

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1-8" in a 700,grants .838 BC 190 Beer Cans,which are beyond "SENSATIONAL". Hint...........


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Originally Posted by Big Stick
1-8" in a 700,grants .838 BC 190 Beer Cans,which are beyond "SENSATIONAL". Hint...........
700 mag box long enough for high B.C. bullets in a 264 Remington Mag?


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DumbFhuqk,

The OEM 700 box is more than long enough at 3.675". Hint.

The 264 is a Goat Fhuqk,compared to the 7mm Rem Mag. Hint............


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in my area where we hunt deer up close, i'd have to say is that the 7 mag is close to dead. informal as it is, i only found one 7mm Rem Mag that hunted with it (my friend is RIP). at my range (i have it at the shop, only friends and family), the '06 and the 270 Win rule the roost. surprisingly, the 7-08 comes next. there is a smattering of 6.5 Creedmoor and 35 Rem. the 30-30 is held by the old folks who still hunt (i'm 50 yo, so it is around 65yo +)

then there a few military and sporterized surplus guns, 7x57, 8x57, '06, 6.5 Carcano, 6.5x55...

my brother's friend rifles are about the bullets fps. a 300 and 338 RUM, 300 and 338 Win Mag, i can't remember the calibers the Win Short Mags, but he had a few.

i can remember that 3 or 4 guys that went out west were carrying 7mm Rem Mag and the 300 Win Mag and they came back and their guns were sold and the next year, they took their deer guns ('06 and 270 Win).

my dad (RIP) had a TC Contender in 7-30 Waters hunting and quite a few piles of deer. then there is 280 Rem that my cousin uses. a few 300 Savages, 243 Win and a 35 Whelen. there is a couple i forgot.

over the years i hunted with 30 and 357 Herrett, 30 Rem, 30-40 Krag, 44 Rem Mag and Special, sporterized 7x57, sporterized 8x57, 9.3x57, 30-30 and 35/30-30, sporterized 6.5x55, 6.5 CM, 7-08, 444 Marlin, 45-70, 500 Linebaugh, 25-06, 30 Carbine, 12 and 20 ga slugs, 243 Win, 22-250AI, 32 Win SPL., 6.5 Carcano, '06, 270 Win and several more i forgot.

if i were to choose, a custom '98 FN Mauser with a 20" Douglas barrel in 7x57 and it would shoot a 139gr Hornady FN (discontinued) with either IMR3031 or IMR4320. my son now has it.

the number of deer i have killed over 150 yards, i would count by my fingers and toes and have 3 or 4 toes left. i've killed many deer under 50 yards (the closest was 12 feet).


as you can see, i don't need a 7mm Mag (or a 300 or 338 or...) to kill deer. even the premium or mono bullets aren't need. just a cup-n-core or a cast bullet will do me good.


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From what I find on the web, the 7 Mag is in the top ten,years 22 and 23, for ammo sold, rifles sold and custom rifle builds. IF it`s going, it ain`t going too fast.

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i know a couple farmers who still use their 7mmremmag, but there getting long in the tooth. their sons use 308s or 6.5 creed. when i'm out west i see some 7mags but rarely see one back home. perhaps just too much recoil for a "deer" rifle. i seriously doubt the 7mag is dead, or even dying. just taking a back seat for a spell. younger gun buyers are either wanting a tactical type rifle, a wicked looking long range component rifle, or a less expensive savage axis, rar, etc. sign of the times i suspect.

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Judging by the amount of ammo we sell here, there are still a lot of 7mm Rem Mags in use here in north Alabama, northeast Mississippi, and south-central Tennessee. It's certainly in the top-5 of big game ammo cartridges we sold. However, last year we only received one new 7mm RM in the store - a Browning X-Bolt. It was in the rack abt 2.5 months before it sold.

One of the hurdles the 7mm RM had to overcome here was all the hype that the less experienced and less well informed hunters sucked up back in the 60s and 70s, and caused them to believe shot placement wasn't very important with the mighty 7mm magnum. The stores couldn't keep 7mm Rem Mags in stock. A lot o those hunters believed that if they "cut hair" most anywhere on the deer, that the shock of the hit would bring down the deer. The woods were full of 7mm Mag toters wounding, gut shooting, and blowing big bloodshot holes through deer. For years at many clubs, when someone would show up with a 7mm Rem Mag, the more experienced hunters would discretely roll their eyes and groan.

I've got two 7mm Rem Mags, one a SS Ruger 77 Mk II with the boatpaddle stock and the other a 60s vintage H&R UltraRifle with FN Mauser action and a really gaudy stock, by todays standards, that looks like it was designed by a New Orleans pimp, but it sure is comfortable to shoot, compared to the Ruger. I call it my "whore-house rifle." Unfortunately, before I acquired it, it got a streak of rust in the bore from the muzzle back about 4" or so. So the best it groups is about 1.25" to 1.75", but that's "minute-of-deer" out to 400 yds or so, with selected loads.

The Ruger is quite accurate out to 700 yds, the furthest I've shot it, and has no problems stabilizing any 175 gr bullet I've tried in it as well as at least one 180 gr I've tried. I've not hunted with either of those two rifles, but I may remedy that this fall.

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I've had a few 7RM's over the last 45 yrs, first rifle I bought was a Parker Hale deluxe version in 7RM. I went with a 7-08 and a 338WM for many years as the go to hunting guns. Now I have another 7RM in a Merkel K1, and a 300H&H in an 1885Win.
I think at worst, and it'll take a good while to get there, the 7RM could wind up like the 300H&H, still occasionally chambered in some guns, but still enough guns around that ammo demand will keep it going for many years to come.
Mfgrs could update barrels on say the Swift and 22-250 to faster twists, think that would help them a lot.

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It had its day, now it's time for the 7RM to die peacefully.

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I wouldn't start digging the grave just yet. Sure, some of the new cartridges offer genuine improvements/refinements but that doesn't diminish the effectiveness of the old favorites. They'll be selling 7 Rem mag ammo for a good while.


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Eastern woods, shooting small white-tails from a tree stand vs shooting mule deer, elk, white tail and pronghorn in the mountains and the prairie seems to me is where the opinions lie.
Rifling twist is not part of the equation, except to a few maybe.who think fast twist is the answer to all problems.
If recoil is a problem from a well stocked 7mm RM???

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Bullets matter wayyyyyyy more than headstamps and RPM factors that which is viable. None of which is "subjective". Hint.

Pardon my actually shooting though. Hint.

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