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Some poor R/C enthusiast still scratching' his head this morning.

LOL

we heard the jets go over the house flying low

Loss of pressurization tends to do that...

Any new theory’s

Sounds like what happened to Payne Stewart. Hard to explain the u turn when over Long Island to return to Virginia where it crashed.

I did learn that woman don’t know schit about sonic booms and trying to argue over what they are is fugking useless

The magic of autopilot. Not had to understand at all...

No Idea how it works on a plane . Stewarts plane was on autopilot as well and just ran out of fuel.

Very sad ending for a few people in this plane. If I read it correctly, the owner of Encore Motors' daughter, 2 year old granddaughter, the nanny and pilot all perished in the crash. Rest in Peace!

Prayers for the family

According to what I have read, they can't.

So-called news reporters tend to use popular buzzwords they have no clue about.

My read is that it was an unfortunate accident of some type. The .gov folks immediately released the ID of the aircraft, the owner, flight plan, passengers, etc. If there was something that didn't fit the agenda, we would still be waiting. eg: Has anyone seen a copy of the "Nashville Manifesto", yet ?

And, if .gov did not want us to know about it, we would never hear about it in the first place. Thursday night 13 Sep 2001. Watching a news briefing, a senior military official explaining the various air assets that were scrambled in response to the 9/11 hijackings. As he was closing out his discussion, he made a comment to the effect of: "Unfortunately, due to time and distance, we were not able to intercept 3 of the 4 aircraft." Commercial break. New speaker.

Yep.

But you're an idiot...

Question for the people that know how a plane operates. Does the plane send out a message to the control tower(s) if they lose oxygen in the cabin and cockpit?

Good story about going to sleep in an aircraft…

One night off the Midway, one of our A-7 drivers checked into the marshall stack (holding pattern) and while waiting for his push time, he set the jet in a turn, he set the jet on “altitude and attitude holding mode” and dozed off. He wasn’t high enough to have to worry about hypoxia even if the pressurization failed.

Well, his push time came and went and he did not make the required call or start his descent. The marshall controller tried to call him on the radio but no luck. They tried to call him on guard (emergency frequency). No response.

They sent someone to join on him to see if they could see what was going on. The guy joined up and said, “it looks like he’s asleep” 😳. Lots of ideas thrown around….maybe fly in front and “thump” him in an attempt to kick off the autopilot, etc. They thought better of that though.

Finally, somebody came up with the bright idea to use an alarm clock. His roommate went to their stateroom, took it down to CATCC or Carrier Air Traffic Control Center. They set the alarm off, keyed the mic and broadcast it on the marshall frequency. It worked !!!

After he got his bearings he came down and landed ok. 😊

His new Carrier Air Wing 5 call sign…..”Sleepy” 😁

Lots of folks don’t realize that even if you’re breathing 100 percent oxygen, if the pressurization fails above about 23,000-25,000 feet there’s not enough pressure to force the oxygen into the bloodstream. You have very little time, or useful consciousness, to get down to an altitude where you can survive. You go to sleep and never wake up. Remember the pro golfer that was killed years ago….that was what happened to them and I’m guessing something similar in this last mishap.

Do these planes have black boxes like commercial

No. The pilot can declare an emergency via the radio or use the Transponder to indicate a problem BUT, pilot needs to get down to around 10,000’ RIGHT NOW, I would not be waiting for permission from an air traffic controller either. You only have a few seconds of useful consciousness.

I’ve never flown one of those but the pilot would have a warning light and/or tone but there’s nothing to signal ATC

Payne Stewart, deceased golfer. Flew north from Florida, was supposed to take a left over Georgia and head towards California. Plane never made the left turn, and crashed in Mina South Dakota.