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I have a BRNO .22 it has a shcnable forend can anyone tell me what model it is..Thx.
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Most likely it is a Model 1 or Model 2.
Need to see at least one picture though to be sure.
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Overall pic (to see stock shape), and also the rear sight - #1's had a simple leaf sight and #2's had a tangent rear sight much like a scaled down military Mauser sight. My #2:
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I found a photo of a pair of #1s on the net - you can see the different rear sight that gnoahhh spoke of:
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I have a BRNO .22 it has a shcnable forend can anyone tell me what model it is..Thx. It will be stamped on the top of the barrel, unless it is a TGF in which case it will be a Model 1
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Forgot to mention that #1 barrels had a boss with dovetail on the barrel which supported the rear sight. #2's sight is affixed with a barrel band.
BRNO experts: were sights the only difference? How many followed German/Czech tradition of only checkering the wrist and not the fore arm? (I see a checkered forearm in the above #1 pics, but it also kinda strikes me as being aftermarket too. Dunno.) Most, if not all, I remember seeing were without fore arm checkering.
Mine is a late #2, early 1970's, and doesn't have the silky smooth action that #1's had that I've experienced. Not bad per se, just a little rougher in comparison. It's trigger was slightly problematic too - very light and smooth but creeeeepy. A BasiX trigger fixed that. Now it's a rather nice and very consistent 2lbs. with crisp let-off. Truly was a drop-in proposition. It is very accurate - not caring much what brand of decent ammo it's fed, as long as it's standard velocity. It cares not a bit for hi vel stuff. Not "target grade accuracy" but 1/2" and less at 50 yards consistently is nothing to sneeze at either. Federal, CCI, cheap Eley, SK Standard, all behave nicely. For some dumb reason it really really likes SK Pistol Match the most - it's what it's sighted in with and what I've used for a never ending parade of groundhogs into the backyard/garden.
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This will help you sort out the different parts. Here
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Interesting thread! How close is the CZ 455 to the original BRNO? I've never seen a true BRNO.
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Interesting thread! How close is the CZ 455 to the original BRNO? I've never seen a true BRNO. 1958 Model 5.
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JSTUART: Good evening to you my friend - well it's evening here in southern BC - I hope your day or night is going according to plan. That's a nice No 5 sir! My understanding is that they were military training rifles for several middle eastern countries and most ended up sold surplus in Australia and New Zealand. Somehow the one on the left ended up in BC and my good wife gave it to me as a birthday gift at least 30 years ago. It started life as a 1958 No. 5 as well. Mine had a pretty beat up lighter colored beech stock with a little chunk cracked off the toe, so I built another one for it. It's a shooter like most of them seem to be. Thanks for sharing yours, as mentioned I don't see many - well any other - No 5s here. All the best to you all. Dwayne
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The tgf marked model 1 was the surplus/small arms range item, the Model 5 is a Model 1 barrel on a Model 2 action...and in my opinion is the pick of the lot.
Apparently the Czechs had a bunch of old Model 1 barrels and put them together with the better Model 2 action.
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Interesting thread! How close is the CZ 455 to the original BRNO? I've never seen a true BRNO. 1958 Model 5. Looks close. I'm betting the original BRNO has a bit more panache
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Interesting thread! How close is the CZ 455 to the original BRNO? I've never seen a true BRNO. 1958 Model 5. Looks close. I'm betting the original BRNO has a bit more panache That is a 1958 Brno Model 5.
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Thanks for the pictures! Love my 455, but love classic rifles even more
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Thanks for the pictures! Love my 455, but love classic rifles even more They are my achilles heel. There is no going around it, I particularly like the '55 to '65 Brno offerings as they have that something extra. Or, it is what I pored over as a child
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My first BRNO was an early post-war #1, gifted to me by the Air Force bomber pilot who stayed on in Europe after hostilities (he had all his missions in but wanted to make it a career so wound up in Transport Command), who bought it new during that time period. I left myself get talked out of it long ago but always remembered that sweet smooth bolt. When I stumbled onto my current #2 I had visions of correcting that loss, but I gotta say I was mildly disappointed in the roughness of the action compared to my memory of what the #1 was like. Disappointment turned to acceptance which turned into fondness the more I used it. It now has the status of "keeper" which is a rare bird at Chez Gnoahhh!
JSTUART: I'm unclear as to BRNO's .22 presence in the U.S. Were they ever "officially" exported to here or did they all arrive via "backdoors" after the Czechs found themselves behind the Iron Curtain? I know they exported a lot to India and Australia where they continue to have a strong cult following, or so I'm told.
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My first BRNO was an early post-war #1, gifted to me by the Air Force bomber pilot who stayed on in Europe after hostilities (he had all his missions in but wanted to make it a career so wound up in Transport Command), who bought it new during that time period. I left myself get talked out of it long ago but always remembered that sweet smooth bolt. When I stumbled onto my current #2 I had visions of correcting that loss, but I gotta say I was mildly disappointed in the roughness of the action compared to my memory of what the #1 was like. Disappointment turned to acceptance which turned into fondness the more I used it. It now has the status of "keeper" which is a rare bird at Chez Gnoahhh!
JSTUART: I'm unclear as to BRNO's .22 presence in the U.S. Were they ever "officially" exported to here or did they all arrive via "backdoors" after the Czechs found themselves behind the Iron Curtain? I know they exported a lot to India and Australia where they continue to have a strong cult following, or so I'm told. So far as I understand it anything from the iron curtain came through Canada...remember how desirable the CZ75 9mm was. The biggest market for Brno 22lr was Australia, to the point where they were not so much iconic as just everywhere, in the Southern states at least...rabbits. I never thought much of the model 1 action, I just wasn't impressed with the trigger...the Model 2 trigger is much better. The Model 1 & 5 foresights are larger internally than the Model 2 and lend themselves to having a 1/2" thread installed in front of the foresight. One thing you do have to watch when buying Brno 22lr of any model is some of the bolt faces were cut a smidgeon high. Should you strike this the easy fix is to place a cut piece of paper under the bolt guide/ejector housing, this stops the empty jumping the ejector and getting stuck behind it.
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JSTUART; Morning once more my cyber friend, thanks for the additional photos.
I'll have to get some better ones of the markings on mine, but they look identical to yours with the 58 on the barrel and the action.
On mine some previous owner had milled the grooves to take a standard rimfire 3/8" dovetail at some point in the past.
Another odd thing with mine is there is a ring on the inside of the barrel about 6" back of the muzzle but so help me it still will give either the Tikka T1X or the Ruger 10/22 with a Green Mountain Match barrel a hard run for most accurate that day.
Thanks again for sharing the photos and of the different magazines too as that's a new one on me.
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Thanks, JSTUART. Very informative.
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