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Question is......
Portable Gen guys......
Fuel on hand ?
Eth free clear ? Or treated with Stabil ?
Good subject.....which is better ?
Treated Stabil fuel or right outta the pump
'Clear Ethonal free' Clear has become very popular here.....88 octane too
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I worry that a widespread and extended power outage might affect natural gas pumping. No NG equals no generator. I think a diesel generator is more reliable and the fuel is safer and can be stored longer. There are not many diesel generators on the market in the size range appropriate for a house. Any recommendations?
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Tikka, we can get ethanol free 91 octane. Haven't bought Stabil in probably 10 years.
It's the ONLY gasoline I will buy for anything.
Zero fuel/carb issues.
I have a 5-6 year old 'brand new' Honda generator stored in our garage. Every couple years I fire it up just to make sure it runs. No problems with the old ass fuel in it.
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Tikka, we can get ethanol free 91 octane. Haven't bought Stabil in probably 10 years.
It's the ONLY gasoline I will buy for anything.
Zero fuel/carb issues.
I have a 5-6 year old 'brand new' Honda generator stored in our garage. Every couple years I fire it up just to make sure it runs. No problems with the old ass fuel in it. Good stuff til ya cant get it.Or any gas/diesel for that matter. Been there. Groceries as well
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Anyway you cut it a generator is a short time proposition. We've never been without electricity for more than three days. LP gas will be my choice when I get one. When we built the house, I had a manual transfer switch wired in and the gas tank is on that side of the house. The regulator is not far from the power interface. All i have to do is pour a slab for it to sit on and get the gas plumbed to it. I've been putting it off but it could've come in pretty handy here a few times. I just am not sure which brand to buy. Generac seems to be popular around here but I'm not sure. Having them worked on is another thing.
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I believe i could get thru a month and a half or so pretty good. If things havent recovered some in that time its bad real bad and worse things have began or coming soon
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Tikka, we can get ethanol free 91 octane. Haven't bought Stabil in probably 10 years.
It's the ONLY gasoline I will buy for anything.
Zero fuel/carb issues.
I have a 5-6 year old 'brand new' Honda generator stored in our garage. Every couple years I fire it up just to make sure it runs. No problems with the old ass fuel in it. So our eth free is only 88 Yours is 91 Elevation difference I guess SLC is 4500'.......... St George is 2700' Here in Podunk it's 6K' Higher the elevation the lower the octane needed Read it on the internet so must be true Anyhow......Eth Free (Clear) smells better
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I just got a quote from Generac for a 24kw for my house, 12.5 k for the gen and install. I would have to use propane here and the cost for that install, including buying the tanks, would be $7200.00 So about 20 K
We have been using the portable gen for years, it's just a pain to set up . We are in Florida so -- Wonder why the propane is so high? We had 2 large tanks installed and filled for 1k.
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Tikka, we can get ethanol free 91 octane. Haven't bought Stabil in probably 10 years.
It's the ONLY gasoline I will buy for anything.
Zero fuel/carb issues.
I have a 5-6 year old 'brand new' Honda generator stored in our garage. Every couple years I fire it up just to make sure it runs. No problems with the old ass fuel in it. So our eth free is only 88 Yours is 91 Elevation difference I guess SLC is 4500'.......... St George is 2700' Here in Podunk it's 6K' Higher the elevation the lower the octane needed Read it on the internet so must be true Anyhow......Eth Free (Clear) smells better oh yea..............$4.32/gallon FJB..................
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I just got a quote from Generac for a 24kw for my house, 12.5 k for the gen and install. I would have to use propane here and the cost for that install, including buying the tanks, would be $7200.00 So about 20 K
We have been using the portable gen for years, it's just a pain to set up . We are in Florida so -- Wonder why the propane is so high? We had 2 large tanks installed and filled for 1k. Iffin I were on propane I'd start a Go Fund Me for the winter months
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I just got a quote from Generac for a 24kw for my house, 12.5 k for the gen and install. I would have to use propane here and the cost for that install, including buying the tanks, would be $7200.00 So about 20 K
We have been using the portable gen for years, it's just a pain to set up . We are in Florida so -- Wonder why the propane is so high? We had 2 large tanks installed and filled for 1k. Iffin I were on propane I'd start a Go Fund Me for the winter months Little over 3 bux here. Wood heat in my house. Always have an always will til i can no longer make it anyhow
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I just got a quote from Generac for a 24kw for my house, 12.5 k for the gen and install. I would have to use propane here and the cost for that install, including buying the tanks, would be $7200.00 So about 20 K
We have been using the portable gen for years, it's just a pain to set up . We are in Florida so -- Wonder why the propane is so high? We had 2 large tanks installed and filled for 1k. Iffin I were on propane I'd start a Go Fund Me for the winter months Little over 3 bux here. Wood heat in my house. Always have an always will til i can no longer make it anyhow I have NG Last address in the so called city limits It was very reasonable......... Till they swapped out my meter Then the billing went up bass turds
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I just got a quote from Generac for a 24kw for my house, 12.5 k for the gen and install. I would have to use propane here and the cost for that install, including buying the tanks, would be $7200.00 So about 20 K
We have been using the portable gen for years, it's just a pain to set up . We are in Florida so -- Wonder why the propane is so high? We had 2 large tanks installed and filled for 1k. Iffin I were on propane I'd start a Go Fund Me for the winter months We only use it for supplement heat if something happens to our main heat source, pool heater and whole house gen
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One important point. I would think NG if you use it everyday. Propane would be good too especially if it is used mainly for power outages.
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It's a great business. The high dollar 2nd and 3rd home here often have high dollar generators that serve no real purpose because nobody is in them in the winter when 90% of the power loss occurs here. Even then power is normally restored within hours or a couple days at most. They have them serviced every year which is the only time they are ever operated.
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I just can't justify the cost. We may lose power twice a year and a couple years ago it was out for about 12 hours. Freezers will be fine and I can live without power for a half a day.
We do have a 12k portable with a lock out on the main box. I'll run the house for about an hour every month or so.
Remember, it's good to start a Portable once in a while but you also have to work the genset also.
Helps when my wife doesn't work so she's either home or close so she can power the house if need be if I'm at work
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I worry that a widespread and extended power outage might affect natural gas pumping. No NG equals no generator. I think a diesel generator is more reliable and the fuel is safer and can be stored longer. There are not many diesel generators on the market in the size range appropriate for a house. Any recommendations? Keep an eye on the fuel and maybe get it tested once a year. Algae can and will be a MOFO.
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I was in Louisiana for Gustav. 2.5 weeks without power, the first few weeks of September. You could only buy 5 gallons of fuel at a time. It kept a 5000W gen and a window a/c unit humming and kept our fridge/freezer up, but the fuel situation was always tenuous.
I'll take my chance with NG.
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I'll run the house for about an hour every month or so.
Remember, it's good to start a Portable once in a while but you also have to work the genset also. Very good idea. We had exercise timers on all of the sewer lift stations where I used to work. Could vary the time and frequency at which they ran.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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