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Wonder if any of them said oh fugk
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It is easy to say that "they" knew it imploded in real time. Yes, the US Navy heard sounds that were consistent with an implosion. Now some facts: Hearing what might have been an implosion does not guarantee that it was an implosion - there are lots of things like undersea volcanoes that produce sudden loud sounds. Second, even if you could be sure it was a sub that imploded, it does not tell you which sub. That area of the ocean is a highway for Russian subs. (That's why we have that listening net there. Duh.) Third, even if your intelligence is so good that you knew exactly which sub, and where, you would not broadcast that your systems are so good that you DO know all that. There are still some secrets.
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It is easy to say that "they" knew it imploded in real time. Yes, the US Navy heard sounds that were consistent with an implosion. Now some facts: Hearing what might have been an implosion does not guarantee that it was an implosion - there are lots of things like undersea volcanoes that produce sudden loud sounds. Second, even if you could be sure it was a sub that imploded, it does not tell you which sub. That area of the ocean is a highway for Russian subs. (That's why we have that listening net there. Duh.) Third, even if your intelligence is so good that you knew exactly which sub, and where, you would not broadcast that your systems are so good that you DO know all that. There are still some secrets. +1000
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The bodies would be subject to the pressure, and also the crushing implosion of the vessel itself, which one would think may mess them up considerably. There are no bodies. The pressure and heat from the implosion probably pulverized them. Would they have burned? Not enough time I suspect. How the fugk can you burn under 13k ft of water rushing in It's at a molecular level. The water that makes up most of your body will literally boil. Is it similar to space ? Outside of the ozone layer ?dumb this down for me I’m highly interested I’ve never heard of such absolute bullschit An object has a temperature, which means it has the capacity to transfer heat. So, any object---even an ice cube, is imbued with a certain quantity of heat. When you compress the matter which makes up the object down to a smaller volume, all the matter and heat energy is still there, but is now confined to a much smaller volume and that gives it the capacity to transfer heat much more readily.
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How deep were they at 1 hr 45 min? I haven't seen that reported yet. So does the same principle imply if your on the moon? In a space suit, the pressure is on inside, not the outside. A ripped suit will blow out. The sudden extreme drop of pressure will cause the blood to boil very quickly. A sudden increase in pressure is entirely different. They were at about 10,000 feet. It took that sub about 2 1/2 half hours to get to Titanic, and it had made that trip repeatedly. They were 1 hour 45 minutes into the dive. So, it was at 75% of rated depth and it still failed. Wouldn't a company that is worth a rat's ass build it to at least double rated depth of any depth they intended to explore? Or is it like home building where the cheap way always wins for the builder. They had billionaire interest, so doubt money was the issue. Just dumbasses that should have been inventing new kid's bathtub toys.
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How many dives had that deathtrap made already? Repeated exposure to high pressures causes metal fatigue and potential stress fractures- - - - -that's why welding gas and LP gas cylinders get hydrostatic tested periodically. They don't operate at anywhere near the pressure that sinking tin can had to experience!
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This sub had been down there a number of times before, is that right? Material fatigue is highly likely.
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Wonder if any of them said oh fugk Nah… Too quick. DF
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If the pressure is so great that it can implode a modern designed submarine why is the Titanic mostly still intact?
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If the pressure is so great that it can implode a modern designed submarine why is the Titanic mostly still intact? This is the best thread on the site right now.
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This sub had been down there a number of times before, is that right? Material fatigue is highly likely. My take on it. Reportedly the certification process with periodic inspections address material fatigue. The CEO bypassed all that, staying in the experimental class. It cost him dearly. And his fellow victims. DF
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If the pressure is so great that it can implode a modern designed submarine why is the Titanic mostly still intact? It is not exactly "intact," but, aside from that, it is filled with water. So, the pressure is equalized inside and out. There are no air cavities in the Titanic. That's what happened to the Titan. The water pressure crushed the air cavity. Now that that has occurred, its wreckage will not be further damaged by the water pressure.
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If the pressure is so great that it can implode a modern designed submarine why is the Titanic mostly still intact? This is the best thread on the site right now. Revealing, aint it? 
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If the pressure is so great that it can implode a modern designed submarine why is the Titanic mostly still intact? Pressure equalization Titanic, in and out, for around a hundred years. No pressure gradient, no potential for such activity. DF
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Plum we ain’t talking Lincoln how does a human body burn up under water No burning occurred. Water is extremely resistant to temperature changes. That's why they invented water-cooled engines. 31*F water from an entire ocean at 12,500 ft of depth at 6,000 psi imploding a tiny craft and the little bodies therein would not increase temperatures much, if any, above, 31* in the nano seconds that took. That may be the most insane statement I ever read here. "Extremely resistant to temperature change" what a friggin hoot. And thats's not why they invented water cooled engines. Wow
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Plum we ain’t talking Lincoln how does a human body burn up under water No burning occurred. Water is extremely resistant to temperature changes. That's why they invented water-cooled engines. 31*F water from an entire ocean at 12,500 ft of depth at 6,000 psi imploding a tiny craft and the little bodies therein would not increase temperatures much, if any, above, 31* in the nano seconds that took. That may be the most insane statement I ever read here. "Extremely resistant to temperature change" what a friggin hoot. And thats's not why they invented water cooled engines. Wow So ppls remains inside the titanic at the same depth ? The people on the Titantic went down with ship not zero to a million in a millisecond
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Plum we ain’t talking Lincoln how does a human body burn up under water No burning occurred. Water is extremely resistant to temperature changes. That's why they invented water-cooled engines. 31*F water from an entire ocean at 12,500 ft of depth at 6,000 psi imploding a tiny craft and the little bodies therein would not increase temperatures much, if any, above, 31* in the nano seconds that took. That may be the most insane statement I ever read here. "Extremely resistant to temperature change" what a friggin hoot. And thats's not why they invented water cooled engines. Wow So ppls remains inside the titanic at the same depth ? The people on the Titantic went down with ship not zero to a million in a millisecond 👍
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Pictures or it didnt happen, where is the evidence? If they have visual confirmation of the destruction of the device, there are pictures or video that should be made public!
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I've been thinking about the 2200psi oxygen tank example someone mentioned earlier.
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