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Is sparkling wine made anywhere but Epernet France, champagne?
Seems stupid but there’s tons of shcitt like that around the world. It’s called an Apellation or Nom De Appellate or whatever. A San Marzano tomato grown from the same seed but anywhere else in the world but the Certified San Marzano region of Italy, is just a San Marzano STYLE tomato.
Basically a regional ‘trademark’ for lack of a better word.
Yes, there are ‘recipe’ protocols, production satndards, all of that and more, but sometimes, many times, it comes down to something as stupidly limiting as geographical boundariies.
I wasn’t aware that bourbon distilled anywhere but Kentucky could call itself “bourbon”…
When did that change?
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Bourbon was to 'Merica as Gin was to England but if you notice, the Brits have let Gin Standards slide too.
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Originally it was only if from Bourbon County Kentucky
But in the United States of Sliding standards Ca$h is king. So it's said. But Ky was part of Virginy & even when Ky. became a state in 1792 Bourbon Co. consumed a large central eastern section of the state. When Bourbon County was split into multiple counties & where Bourbon Liquor actually originated or ruled upon is a cluster IMO, & up the someone really interested & willing to further research. Some say Woodford Co., Bourbon, Scott or even Fayette, which were all part of Bourbon Co. Virginia at one time.
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To be Kentucky Straight Bourbon it has to be produced in Kentucky THEN AGED AT LEAST ONE YEAR IN KENTUCKY. Therefore you could produce it Kentucky, and age it somewhere else and even though it’s Kentucky Bourbon…by legal marketing standards it would not be considered Kentucky Straight Bourbon. It’s a small, but important difference. 😎
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let's throw this question out there in this thread..
what's the difference between whiskey and bourbon
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In my admittedly narrow mind, bourbon should be made in Kentucky. I’m not a native Kentuckian but it is what it is. Spent a few years in love with Makers Mark before I got wiser, now Evan Williams bottled in bond Elijah Craig are kept around for the rare day I’ll have a drink.
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Ha! Ha! Check those labels closely. Some KY bourbon is actually distilled up in Indiana. Smoke Wagon is distilled at MGP as a lot of others and shipped off elsewhere for bottling and maybe aging. One of the newer Distilleries to try is New Riff in Northern Kentucky. They initially sourced their bourbon from MGP until their stock was aged enough. Now they are producing all their own.
As far as blended bourbon, it must contain 51% straight bourbon, but the remaining 49% can be just about anything. What, or where, is MGP? I scrutinized the Smokewagon label, all I could figure was, it is made in Nevada.
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Bourbon can be made anywhere. It's just that it's better if it's made in Kentucky. Yes, we know how to flavor the shine.
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I love buying bourbon almost as much as buying guns. Stocked up on Old Forester 1920 and Russell's Reserve Single Barrel recently. I'm tired of getting burned where bourbon I develop an affinity for gets popular, bottles get allocated and the stuff can't be found anywhere but online for multiples of MSRP. Damn you bourbon taters.
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McCormick's says that their Old Style Whiskey is distilled from bourbon mash and aged for 36 months in reused oak barrels.
McCormick's, in Weston, MO, claims to be the oldest distillery west of the Mississippi River.
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And they both tried to kill me in 1973"
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There's good straight bourbon whiskey being made all over these days fortunately.
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To be Kentucky Straight Bourbon it has to be produced in Kentucky THEN AGED AT LEAST ONE YEAR IN KENTUCKY. Therefore you could produce it Kentucky, and age it somewhere else and even though it’s Kentucky Bourbon…by legal marketing standards it would not be considered Kentucky Straight Bourbon. It’s a small, but important difference. 😎 A minimum of 2 years for straight bourbon.
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yep…at least 2 total…but one must be in KY
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To be Kentucky Straight Bourbon it has to be produced in Kentucky THEN AGED AT LEAST ONE YEAR IN KENTUCKY. Therefore you could produce it Kentucky, and age it somewhere else and even though it’s Kentucky Bourbon…by legal marketing standards it would not be considered Kentucky Straight Bourbon. It’s a small, but important difference. 😎 I didn't say anything about Kentucky straight Bourbon.
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Ha! Ha! Check those labels closely. Some KY bourbon is actually distilled up in Indiana. Smoke Wagon is distilled at MGP as a lot of others and shipped off elsewhere for bottling and maybe aging. One of the newer Distilleries to try is New Riff in Northern Kentucky. They initially sourced their bourbon from MGP until their stock was aged enough. Now they are producing all their own.
As far as blended bourbon, it must contain 51% straight bourbon, but the remaining 49% can be just about anything. What, or where, is MGP? I scrutinized the Smokewagon label, all I could figure was, it is made in Nevada. MGP is Midwest Grain Products located in Kansas, Missouri, Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio. A lot of the bourbons you see on the shelves are actually distilled by them and I believe most in Lawrenceburg Indiana. Smokewagon sources there distillate from MGP, transports it to Nevada, then ages, and bottles it. https://www.mgpingredients.com/branded-spirits/distilleries-and-products
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Nope, Mathman you didn’t, just clarifying what the standards are for what I said. 😎
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Don't be knockin' MGP! They make some of the best booze around!
Especially if you are a Tito's drinker - they get their booze from a fuel ethanol distiller.
I'm sure some of your favorites are made by MGP.
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yep…at least 2 total…but one must be in KY What is your source for that? Straight Bourbon is aged 2 years and adding Kentucky to the label only means that it has been distilled in KY. No requirements for where it is aged. Also as a side note, the legal requirements for bourbon pertaining to aging is that it is aged in new charred oak barrels. They can pour it into a barrel and pour it right out and that meets the legal requirements.
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