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Hey Folks,
I would appreciate hearing from any LEOs, rangemasters or other people with experience on this.
Because so many police departments are switching from .40 S&W back to 9mm, I see gun dealers offering Beretta Storm Carbines in .40 cal, with minor scufffs or scratches, for attractive prices.
What I would like to know is, how many rounds per year are put through police carbines in the ordinary course? I know that some civilians routinely go out and put 200 rounds or more through their carbines, several times a year. Some folks brag that they have put up to 2,000 rounds through them, without ever cleaning them.
But, since LEO's would generally only be firing their carbine on a qualifying course, perhaps annually, would the police carbines have taken this type of beating?
In instances where LEOs have to qualify on a carbine once a year, do they actually bring in the carbine that was issued to them? Or, is there an identical model carbine at the range that all of them fire to qualify. (Must be huge numbers of rounds through those.)
Thanks for any information or experiences.
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I've never known of a single agency or department that issued these but a safe bet would be 100-200 rounds per year.
And probably less than that.
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It's normal to qualify on the actual firearm you'll be carrying.
I agree that 200 rounds per year would probably be the upper range of what they fired. I'd bet less than 5% ever see 1K rounds a year. If you don't mind a beat up gun they're probably a great deal.
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1-2 50 round qualifying sessions per year on average I'd guess. There are probably a few that have seen some enhanced training sessions. Where are you seeing them for sale?
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Thanks for this information guys.
About 10 years ago, when Paris was suffering from its first terrorist attacks, the news footage showed the special units of the Paris Police, and they were all armed with Beretta CX4 Storms, presumably in 9mm.
I don't personally know of any police forces in the U.S. that are armed with the Storm, but you've got to remember that there are tons of small cities in America that never make the news, and more than thousand counties run by sheriffs with deputy sheriffs, those departments are all allowed to designate their own issue carbines. Given the fact that 9mm and .45 carbines make a lot of sense for use in neighborhoods, as opposed to AR-15s, I have no doubt that these there are a fair number of departments that were equipped with these.
There are actually several wholesalers that are currently offering these CX4 police trade-ins in .40, so I'm pretty sure that one department somewhere sold a lot of them at once. Or maybe, it was the Paris police? :-)
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Last edited by BMT; 08/25/23.
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I would buy one in .45 or 9mm.
Not a .40 S&W fan.
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