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Just a fun fact...it's an expensive war. Cruising the articles on 'mercenary pay in Ukraine', most sources agree, 5 yrs military experience will get you hired on at about 60,000 USD a month. Officers, will get about 25% more. Good thing the US taxpayer is footing the bill, that kind of wages, it adds up quick. Apparently, Wagner Group doesn't pay that well. Russian regulars...IF you can believe Euronews, get around 810 a month....but much , much more for certain MOS's.


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$60K/month is not much for a widow when her husband is killed the first month. On the bright side, the cost of living is pretty low over there I hear.

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The kind of mercenaries they’re looking to pay $60k per month to are not infantry and artillery grunts.

They’re looking for skilled, knowledgeable combat veterans who can train men on advanced weaponry and advise on tactics.

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$60K/month is not much for a widow when her husband is killed the first month. On the bright side, the cost of living is pretty low over there I hear.

Maybe not but it’s probably more than 3 years average salary for every month he survives.


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It doesn't matter how good you think you are, or how much you're being paid, if you find yourself in the middle of a minefield with artillery shells landing all around you, now does it.

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Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".

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Putin unable to attend the BRICs conference in South Africa due to the outstanding international arrest warrants on him.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Putin unable to attend the BRICs conference in South Africa due to the outstanding international arrest warrants on him.
No schidt? I don’t see that anywhere . Link?


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Putin unable to attend the BRICs conference in South Africa due to the outstanding international arrest warrants on him.
Who's going to arrest the Russian president?
Fugging idiot.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Putin unable to attend the BRICs conference in South Africa due to the outstanding international arrest warrants on him.

The warrant was issued by the ICC (International Criminal Court) in The Hague. It has jurisdiction in any member nation which are obligated to arrest Putin for war crimes that he is charged with.

This limits Putin’s travels to non ICC member nations only and he had observed the warrants traveling accordingly.

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South Africa is a member nation of the ICC which is why Putin won’t attend the BRICs conference there.
SA is trying to repeal its membership in the ICC.

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Link doesn’t work, clam


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Prigozhin says that the Russian front in Ukraine is a absolute disgrace and that Wagner will not return there.

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Croatia offers Ukraine an outlet for their grain shipments via the railways to the Adriatic Sea.

Russia loses their bargaining chip with halting Ukraine grain shipments,

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Croatia offers Ukraine an outlet for their grain shipments via the railways to the Adriatic Sea.

Russia loses their bargaining chip with halting Ukraine grain shipments,
Has Putin been arrested yet?

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Massive blast at Russian ammunition depot in Crimea causing evacuations of thousands of people.

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The Russian military continues to lose troops through desertions. Over 1000 desertions cases are active in Russian courts.

It is estimated that thousands continue to flee the country to avoid conscription.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
The Russian military continues to lose troops through desertions. Over 1000 desertions cases are active in Russian courts.

It is estimated that thousands continue to flee the country to avoid conscription.

Toot did you manage to get goalie fired yet in his healthcare job at the VA?

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Saudi Arabia and Turkey are trying to broker a deal to have Ukrainian children that were taken by Russia and placed in children’s homes to be returned to their Ukrainian parents.

These children are reported to number in the thousands.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Saudi Arabia and Turkey are trying to broker a deal to have Ukrainian children that were taken by Russia and placed in children’s homes to be returned to their Ukrainian parents.

These children are reported to number in the thousands.

Ukraine Defense Minister, Oleksii Reznikov just purchased this 7 million euro mansion in Cannes, France for his daughter’s wedding present… Oleksii Reznikov is said to have a net worth of 1 million… just in case you wondered where all the money was going

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
The Russian military continues to lose troops through desertions. Over 1000 desertions cases are active in Russian courts.

It is estimated that thousands continue to flee the country to avoid conscription.


Ukraine Defense Minister, Oleksii Reznikov just purchased this 7 million euro mansion in Cannes, France for his daughter’s wedding present… Oleksii Reznikov is said to have a net worth of 1 million… just in case you wondered where all the money was going. Purchased with stolen US tax dollars


Thousands of military vets remain homeless in the US

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