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Anybody out there #varmintfingered one of these yet? Interested in picking up a striker fired pistol and giving an RDS a try but have not been able to lay hands on one local yet.

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I haven’t had a chance to handle one, but they look like they’d be worth trying. No SA hating here…I own 3. If they’d bring out a 10mm version of this Echelon in a compact(3”to 4” range), they could easily talk me into needing it. Would be interested in a shake down of these new SA pistols as well.


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No.

But if I see one I'll buy it and let you know.

Black Scorpion already has holsters if you're in need.


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Originally Posted by deflave
No.

But if I see one I'll buy it and let you know.

Black Scorpion already has holsters if you're in need.


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I lied.

I found one and didn't buy it. Mostly because they had no mags to go with it and it only comes with two mags. And one is a 17 rounder which is gay.

But I will say the trigger felt legit.

Time will tell.


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I saw 20 rounders don't seem to have filtered out yet, see 17s available.

Hopefully they start to trickle out here.

Thoughts on the trigger noted...


Might cave and go for an optic ready P-10 F if I can't lay hands on an Echelon soon. Or buy both. Or neither. IDK

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If you don't have an existing platform I would probably give it a go. The grip angle seems more normal and less Glock which to me is a plus. It also seems slim which is another plus.

I get really irritated when something like a plastic 9mm drops and it comes with two mags and I can't buy more mags with it.

It also says Croatia on the side of it. I don't care for that.

Front tritium and $700 out the door isn't bad though. And the LGS I was in is pretty high usually so it is likely cheaper other places.


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Originally Posted by deflave
If you don't have an existing platform I would probably give it a go. The grip angle seems more normal and less Glock which to me is a plus. It also seems slim which is another plus.

I get really irritated when something like a plastic 9mm drops and it comes with two mags and I can't buy more mags with it.

It also says Croatia on the side of it. I don't care for that.

Front tritium and $700 out the door isn't bad though. And the LGS I was in is pretty high usually so it is likely cheaper other places.

The original XD design is from Croatia too. I won a HS-2000 at a banquet years ago. Didn’t care for it and traded it.


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Originally Posted by mrfudd
Originally Posted by deflave
If you don't have an existing platform I would probably give it a go. The grip angle seems more normal and less Glock which to me is a plus. It also seems slim which is another plus.

I get really irritated when something like a plastic 9mm drops and it comes with two mags and I can't buy more mags with it.

It also says Croatia on the side of it. I don't care for that.

Front tritium and $700 out the door isn't bad though. And the LGS I was in is pretty high usually so it is likely cheaper other places.

The original XD design is from Croatia too. I won a HS-2000 at a banquet years ago. Didn’t care for it and traded it.

All XD models are from Croatia. But who cares? Glocks were originally from Austria. Walthers from Germany. Berettas from Italy. So what?

I'm with the "no sale until mags widely available" policy too though.


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Looks pretty good. I'd like to try one out.


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Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by mrfudd
Originally Posted by deflave
If you don't have an existing platform I would probably give it a go. The grip angle seems more normal and less Glock which to me is a plus. It also seems slim which is another plus.

I get really irritated when something like a plastic 9mm drops and it comes with two mags and I can't buy more mags with it.

It also says Croatia on the side of it. I don't care for that.

Front tritium and $700 out the door isn't bad though. And the LGS I was in is pretty high usually so it is likely cheaper other places.

The original XD design is from Croatia too. I won a HS-2000 at a banquet years ago. Didn’t care for it and traded it.

All XD models are from Croatia. But who cares? Glocks were originally from Austria. Walthers from Germany. Berettas from Italy. So what?

I'm with the "no sale until mags widely available" policy too though.

Croats had Ustase government during Worl War II.😱

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Originally Posted by deflave
If you don't have an existing platform I would probably give it a go. The grip angle seems more normal and less Glock which to me is a plus. It also seems slim which is another plus.

I get really irritated when something like a plastic 9mm drops and it comes with two mags and I can't buy more mags with it.

It also says Croatia on the side of it. I don't care for that.

Front tritium and $700 out the door isn't bad though. And the LGS I was in is pretty high usually so it is likely cheaper other places.

Made in 🇭🇷? I would not hold that against SA. Austrians produced: Hitler, Göth, Kaltenbrunner, Eichmann, Stangl,....☠️. Glock made in 🇦🇹 😱

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So you're saying Glock is the ticket...

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Originally Posted by hillestadj
So you're saying Glock is the ticket...
Yep and you’re a fa gg for asking.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Looks pretty good. I'd like to try one out.




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Yep, the flexibility of mounting the RDS of your choice and lower mounting height seems like it would be a big plus.

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As this one is G17 sized, I'm guessing it will only be a matter of time until we get a compact G19 sized model also. Sounds like they've done a pretty good job here.


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Handled one last week while waiting on paperwork at the lgs. Felt good and really liked the sights, u notch and tritium front were really easy to pick up. I've never fired a striker fired pistol but this felt very nice in hand. I haven't made a choice on purchasing one, but leaning toward a Sig 320 of some sort being as this is still too new.

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