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2.7L twin turbo V6 - Forget the factory oil change intervals, do it every 3,000 miles. 3000 mile OCI are overkill. The owners manual probably says 10,000. I've been using 10,000 mile OCI for years on conventional engines and have several million trouble free combined miles. But I wouldn't go 10,000 on a turbocharged engine. I have a 2020 Explorer with the 2.3 EB engine and change it at around 7000. Maybe, on a new vehicle, but there [bleep] smart oil life monitors (monitor includes driving conditions, not just mileage/time) is a joke ! The number of 2017/18 domestic vehicles (expired warranty), dealer serviced, that I have had to tell customers their engines were done, in the last 2 years, would stagger most of you ! **An extra $100, full synthetic service per year, is some insurance, for your depreciating asset. YMMV
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The number of 2017/18 domestic vehicles (expired warranty), dealer serviced, that I have had to tell customers their engines were done, in the last 2 years, would stagger most of you ! A lot of them those GM Equinox's? My cousin's kid owns his own shop and he's said they're the biggest POS on the road. Lots of engine failure issues. My Toyota calls for 10k changes, I do 5k. I trust the oil to go 10, I don't trust the filter to be effective that long. And for me 5k is 2 oil changes a year, give or take. The extra 80 bucks to change it will never be noticed.
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Hope you enjoy it. I will say I saw a video of various crash tests ( can't verify the authenticity) and the results were horrible for the full size Bronco. It buckled badly. Stay safe. They're supposed to buckle - that's what absorbs the force of the crash. The only part that shouldn't buckle is the passenger cabin. By the way, the full sized Bronco aced the small overlap crash test - the most difficult crash test for any vehicle. Click Here
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I'm holding out for a refined 13 letter shltspreader in 24' to bring back the friendly competition with the Bronco crowd.
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2.7L twin turbo V6 - Forget the factory oil change intervals, do it every 3,000 miles. 3000 mile OCI are overkill. The owners manual probably says 10,000. I've been using 10,000 mile OCI for years on conventional engines and have several million trouble free combined miles. But I wouldn't go 10,000 on a turbocharged engine. I have a 2020 Explorer with the 2.3 EB engine and change it at around 7000. Maybe, on a new vehicle, but there [bleep] smart oil life monitors (monitor includes driving conditions, not just mileage/time) is a joke ! The number of 2017/18 domestic vehicles (expired warranty), dealer serviced, that I have had to tell customers their engines were done, in the last 2 years, would stagger most of you ! **An extra $100, full synthetic service per year, is some insurance, for your depreciating asset. YMMV Never heard of an engine being damaged by too many oil changes. As I change my own oil, it's simple enough to do every 3,000ish miles. Total cost with a K&N filter and 7 pints of Kirkland synthetic oil is $42. I see folks paying $115 for the same at the dealer. I am sure I could easily stretch it to 7,000 - 8,000 but I don't put that many miles a month on my vehicles so it's more of a time between change issue.
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With modern turbo engines and low tension rings many folks are also installing oil catch cans to prevent oil/combustion vapor from circulating back into the engine. Doesn't do anything to clean the oil, but certainly helps prevent fouling and wear. How to void your factory warranty in one easy step. This is simply not true. I have a catch can on my 2021 gmc. No warranty issue with it. Had it on when I got my last free oil change. Wasn’t mentioned. Granted nothing was broken but the mechs I know don’t give a hoot. Besides, keeping oil residue from collecting on top of the valve with direct injection is a good thing. Fuel doesn’t “wash” the valves like the old port injection or throttle body injection. When I change the oil, the can is 1/3 full. That’s a lot of oil mist not contaminating the valves. YMMV CLYDE
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2.7L twin turbo V6 - Forget the factory oil change intervals, do it every 3,000 miles. 3000 mile OCI are overkill. The owners manual probably says 10,000. I've been using 10,000 mile OCI for years on conventional engines and have several million trouble free combined miles. But I wouldn't go 10,000 on a turbocharged engine. I have a 2020 Explorer with the 2.3 EB engine and change it at around 7000. Maybe, on a new vehicle, but there [bleep] smart oil life monitors (monitor includes driving conditions, not just mileage/time) is a joke ! The number of 2017/18 domestic vehicles (expired warranty), dealer serviced, that I have had to tell customers their engines were done, in the last 2 years, would stagger most of you ! **An extra $100, full synthetic service per year, is some insurance, for your depreciating asset. YMMV A friends 5-6-7? year old F-150 turbo 6cyl. water-pump crapped out. He said it leaked right into the engine crankcase/oil. It's no longer under warranty and is way down on power output. Lots of 'bad sounds' on start up, uses a quart of oil every 500 miles at highway speeds. It cost around $50K . You mind explaining the 'catch-can'? I've only seen them on high performance cars.
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Ordered a 23 in March, got it last week. Two door Badlands model, 2.7L twin turbo V6. So far I'm pretty pleased with it, after ~340 miles. Picked it up in San Antonio, and swung through Austin on the way to Houston. Freeway, highway, some stop & go traffic, and it did 20.8 mpg, which is about 3 mpg better than the Jeep Wrangler I traded in. My normal grind around town it is at 18.8, again a couple mpg better than the Jeep, with more power and better comfort features. Obviously, not broken in yet.
Ford seems to be selling them like hot cakes, and I can see why. Congratulations... Hope it serves you very well for many years.
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Yes, they are terrible Andrew, but it's the full gammit, really, small cars through to light trucks.
GM/ford/jeep/chrysler, seem to be all building evermore complex shyte, built to expire soon after their warranty period.
Not rocket science, they can't stay in business, without vehicle sales.
Servicing is just small crumbs !
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Clyde described it, slightly above where you posted, likely while you were posting ! STRSW, alluded to what it performs. [quote=STRSWilson]With modern turbo engines and low tension rings many folks are also installing oil catch cans to prevent oil/combustion vapor from circulating back into the engine. Doesn't do anything to clean the oil, but certainly helps prevent fouling and wear. Besides, keeping oil residue from collecting on top of the valve with direct injection is a good thing. Fuel doesn’t “wash” the valves like the old port injection or throttle body injection. When I change the oil, the can is 1/3 full. That’s a lot of oil mist not contaminating the valves. YMMV CLYDE Would not have helped in your described case, though.
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2.7L twin turbo V6 - Forget the factory oil change intervals, do it every 3,000 miles. 3000 mile OCI are overkill. The owners manual probably says 10,000. I've been using 10,000 mile OCI for years on conventional engines and have several million trouble free combined miles. But I wouldn't go 10,000 on a turbocharged engine. I have a 2020 Explorer with the 2.3 EB engine and change it at around 7000. My owner's manual for the 2.0 Ecoboost says 3-7K intervals for severe duty. Most people operate their vehicles in severe operating conditions (short trips in cold weather, high idle, off road or dusty conditions, stop and go / slow speed driving, etc). Just change the dang oil already, cheapskates.
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I'm a frugal ole fugger
Drive 20 YO Toyota's
None of this new stuff interests me
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Maybe a 10 YO Land Cruiser.............(:
Good luck & service from your Ford
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Hope you enjoy it. I will say I saw a video of various crash tests ( can't verify the authenticity) and the results were horrible for the full size Bronco. It buckled badly. Stay safe. I saw the same but it turns out they were fake after investigation. The Bronco actually has A+ crash safety ratings.
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Did you drive the Jeep up there in the dark?
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Ordered a 23 in March, got it last week. Two door Badlands model, 2.7L twin turbo V6. Congrats! Some interesting stats My ‘19 2.5L Nissan Frontier 2wd gets a bit less mileage, rated at 152hp and 171ft lbs. Four 625cc cylinders. 9.5/1 Compression ratio. 2023 Ford Bronco Badlands: 315hp (330hp on 91 octane) and 410ftlbs (415 on 91 octane). Six 450cc cylinders. 10/1 compression ratio. Both rated for 5-30 oil, 5qts in the Frontier, 6 in the Bronco. Recommend oil change interval Frontier: 5,000 mi. For the Bronco: 10,000 miles unless the ‘Intelligent Oil System Monitor’ says different. A word of caution, when I bring my Frontier to a Nissan dealership for service ya really gotta watch they don’t put 0-20 in like most of their vehicles run instead of 5-30.
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Ordered a 23 in March, got it last week. Two door Badlands model, 2.7L twin turbo V6. Congrats! Some interesting stats My ‘19 2.5L Nissan Frontier 2wd gets a bit less mileage, rated at 152hp and 171ft lbs. Four 625cc cylinders. 9.5/1 Compression ratio. 2023 Ford Bronco Badlands: 315hp (330hp on 91 octane) and 410ftlbs (415 on 91 octane). Six 450cc cylinders. 10/1 compression ratio. Both rated for 5-30 oil, 5qts in the Frontier, 6 in the Bronco. Recommend oil change interval Frontier: 5,000 mi. For the Bronco: 10,000 miles unless the ‘Intelligent Oil System Monitor’ says different. A word of caution, when I bring my Frontier to a Nissan dealership for service ya really gotta watch they don’t put 0-20 in like most of their vehicles run instead of 5-30. The whole motor oil thing really perplexes me. I have been replacing a quart of oil with a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil for about 30 years. Just what does that do the rest of the oil? I sure don’t know. All I know is, I get high mileages out of my vehicles. I tend to change oil in everything at around 4,000 miles.
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Google says the Ford 2.7L engine has a “compacted graphite iron “ engine block???
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With modern turbo engines and low tension rings many folks are also installing oil catch cans to prevent oil/combustion vapor from circulating back into the engine. Doesn't do anything to clean the oil, but certainly helps prevent fouling and wear.
And with the TX heat, I would also run with BestLine Racing Oil Treatment or similar.
Might as well take care of your investment. Oil catch cans are for direct injection motors mostly, but yeah, forced induction can use one as well
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