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You are correct....but you and the rest of the demon pack do not realize one thing...of course we have no absolute proof....all we have is our faith and nothing more......but one thing for sure, nothing, I mean absolutely nothing, that you demons can say will ever, ever, ever change our minds.....

From Ray Charles

Hit the road Jack, and don't ya come back
No more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road Jack, and don't ya come back no more
What'd you say?
Hit the road Jack, and don't ya come back
No more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road Jack, and don't ya come back no more


Well (Don't ya come back no more)
Uh, what'd you say? (Don't ya come back no more)
I didn't understand you (Don't ya come back no more)
You can't mean that (Don't ya come back no more)
Oh, now baby please (Don't ya come back no more)
What you're trying to do to me (Don't ya come back no more)

No matter how much a snake sheds its skin, it’s still a snake. Since you know it all, you should know when to shut up, and you have miles to go before you reach mediocre...

You keep proving you demons are fucked up big time...go away demons and roam the cemeteries for some lost souls.

Damn, I don’t know what your problem is, but I’m guessing it’s hard to pronounce, and you should really come with a warning label.

So says one of satan's great deflectors...but, there is hope, the experiment was successful and the alien is on it's way to earth to probe your anus for signs of intelligence.

Holy crap!

Follow the science is all these 3 idiots can say.

When will you learn and admit that science creates absolutely nothing. Science is only a study in discovery of already existing phenomena. Where did all the matter come from that scientists have studied?








DBT, Starman, mauser

Wrong, the Biblical theological evidence IS the evidence for Christians, no matter what you regurgitate...and stupidity isn't a crime, so you’re free to go.

Please don’t make sense… It derails the nutters.

All three appear to be members of the low end of the DK club.

Tragic….

Fuck the world....the vast majority of Americans (90%) believe in some kind of higher power, with 56% professing faith in God as described in the Bible and another 33% saying they believe in another type of higher power or spiritual force. Only one-in-ten Americans say they don’t believe in God or a higher power of any kind....from, pew research.

May be TF49, but I am convinced they work for satan.

You can dream up and post all of the insults you wish, but they ring empty - zilch - in the face of the above noted hard evidence, which blows you right out of the water. You simply will not face the proof of your bad behavior here. Neither a victim nor instigator, I have merely analyzed and responded to your many gaffes. You are a victim of yourself. So, done with this now. If you try the same stuff in other threads, we simply bring out the BS detector and the sharpshooters again.

The evidence and the facts regarding the historicity of early Christianity are that a tiny first-century sect which arose in the armpit of the Roman Empire…and Judea was certainly considered as such…and whose leader was rejected by His own people and crucified, not only survived, but thrived, in the face of organized and violent state-sponsored opposition.

This small Nazarene cult was eventually embraced by the very empire that for 300 years sought to extinguish it. Even nowadays there’s a cross commemorating Jesus’ crucifixion adorning the emperor’s entrance into the Roman Coliseum.

Karen Armstrong said in her book, ‘Fields of Blood’ (Religion and the History of Violence) that “Against all odds, by the third-century, Christianity had become a force to be reckoned with. We still do not really understand how this came about.” But nobody can deny that it happened.

Jesus’ followers back then knew quite well how it came about. And Jesus’ followers nowadays know quite well how it came about: they take seriously the eyewitness testimonies of those who were there for these events and eventually documented them for the entire world.

It happened; and it’s amazing that it did. Sandwiched between the power structures of the Jewish Temple and the Roman Empire, this small movement began in Galilee with a day laborer that we know as Jesus of Nazareth. It’s amazing that anything about Him even survived, but it’s undeniable that it did.

But Jesus Himself actually predicted this. Gathered with His closest followers on their way to Caesarea Philippi, He inquired of them what the word on the street was about Him. They replied that some thought He was a reincarnated prophet and some thought He was John the Baptist brought back to life. Then He asked specifically who they (His closest followers) thought He was, and Peter made his profound and declarative statement. And Jesus confirmed the truth and accuracy of Peter’s declaration, and He said that on the basis of that eloquent statement, that He’d build His ekklesia, His assembly, His movement.

And He made it crystal clear to them that death would not overcome His ekklesia. Not His death, and not their deaths. Nothing was gonna stop His new movement. And it didn’t. And it hasn’t. And it won’t. Neither of the power structures of the Jewish Temple or the Roman Empire were fans of new movements. Good things didn’t happen to people who started new movements back then and there.

And some of those same closest followers of Jesus would document why His death was not the death of His movement. And the reason why Jesus’ death was not the death of His movement is because Jesus didn’t do what all other dead people do ~ He didn’t stay dead.

Jesus’ ekklesia grew from that initial tiny band of a few people, to 30 million people in less than 400 years. By 400 A.D., half of the Roman Empire’s 60 million people believed in Jesus. Jesus’ movement went from being a small and persecuted minority, to being the major faith in the mighty Roman Empire itself. Jesus’ new movement triumphed. And it’ll continue to do so. Jesus Himself made that crystal clear.

You fucking dumb ass...i am not the Pope, you tell him....who in the fuck gives a fuck about the Judicial Evidentiary Scale? Christians do not have empirical proof, but a moral certainty, because of Theological evidence...most Christians that I know couldn't give a rats ass about converting others, and I’m not insulting you, I’m describing you.


Let me enlighten you (my perspective)....''faith'' is a confident look to the future, based on reliance on God's promises....Godly faith is defined as trust, relying on God when looking to the future. Ultimately, that means trusting God's intent to make good on His promises from an eternal perspective, and that is what most Christians that I know, do believe....but remember, absolutely no one is forcing you to believe or have faith in God the Bible as you always have free will to chose, and no one is asking you to believe the Gospels are theologically, (key word theologically), true at this point. No one is asking you to believe that the miracles really happened. No one is asking you to believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

The evidence and the facts show that there aren’t many cases…virtually none…of ancient multiple historical written accounts, by separate and independent ancient writers of the same historical event, or series of events, in all of ancient history. Except in the case of the ancient historical manuscripts of the Gospels.

And since the evidence and the facts show that we have virtually no ancient multiple historical written accounts, by separate and independent ancient writers, of the same historical event…except in the case of the ancient historical manuscripts of the Gospels…the ancient historical documentation of the life of Jesus stands out all by itself in that regard.

The evidence and the facts show that the events of His life were extremely important to His 1st century followers. “Many” people attempted to write down an orderly account of the life of Jesus, not just a few, but “many.” The evidence and the facts show that we have 4 different ancient historical documents…by separate and independent ancient historical writers…that document the life of Jesus and that is exceptional and unique. We don’t just have references to these documents, we have actual copies of these documents.

In much of the rest of all of ancient history, we only have references to documents that we no longer have…with much of the rest of all of ancient history, there are no copies even, there’re only authors (who can’t be proven to be the actual authors) who lived long after the events took place who reference documents that reference documents that reference documents…and the documents themselves are no longer with us because they just disintegrated over time.

And yet, the evidence and the facts are, that we have 4 separate and independent historical accounts of the life of Jesus, and the reason we have those accounts are not because of what He taught, and not because He was arrested, and not because He was crucified. The reason that “many” different ancient writers historically documented the life of Jesus is because He rose from the dead.

And the evidence and the facts show that these separate and independent historical accounts were considered extremely valuable and extremely reliable and sacred and inspired by Jesus’ early followers. Jesus’ followers nowadays consider them likewise as well. These ancient historical accounts of actual events were considered scripture, and held in very high regard, by the early church. Jesus’ followers nowadays consider them likewise as well.

Happy christian Karen-fest! LOL!!!

The evidence and facts indicate that the biblical accounts are devoid of evidence and facts and are contrary to evidence and facts in many demonstrable ways.

Just look at what all the experts say.

Antlers - thanks for your two recent posts further illuminating the evidence and facts regarding the origin, growth and substance of Christianity. Very well done.

Baaah !! NO ONE could do that.

You do.