Home Forums Gear Hunting Trucks and Four-Wheel Drives Chevy or GMC 1500 with the 4 cylinder

Hey guys, truck prices in the east are starting to go down and it seems that there are a lot of low mile newer 1500's with the 4 cylinder out there. Talk me in to or out of buying one. I have always been a v8 guy but price could dictate what I buy. I will use it mostly for running around the mountains of North Central PA but I will also be towing a light Camper with it.

Here you go… https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...s/18478412/new-chevy-1-2-ton-w-2-7l-4cyl

I have driven a Silverado with the 2.7 liter motor a couple of times, not a bad motor. Probably not the choice if you are towing at the limit all the time but fine for everything else.

Around my area they're knocking of a ton of money on Silverados with that motor. Always been fond of the 4x4 with a 5.3L V8, probably not going to change?

If it can haul a bag of golf clubs or a weeks groceries, it's plenty of engine for 3/4 of pickup owners.

The number of pickups going up & down my road that clearly have never hauled anything more than golf clubs is amazing. My wife says it's related to small MANHOODS !!!!!!

engineers, research-aholics, gear junkies etc. who thoroughly research a topic and all options before jumping in with their wallet have gravitated to the 2.7 turbo from gm

there are multiple videos out there with the gm engineers who discuss this motor and it's ground up design for truck duty, they had the high tech dual volute turbo in mind and designed the motor around it, the brilliance in the inline big jug long stroke design is very much the old cummins formula, it went so well the first 3 years they added a bunch of power, then went so well the next 2 years they now give it the same long 5 year 60,000 mile powertrain warranty of the diesel...the gm engineers will tell you it's one of only 2 motors they've tried to kill and couldn't...they will also tell you that (at least the newer high output 430 ft/lb 2022.5's and newer) put down more axle torque in 1st gear with the 8-spd than the 2005/6 8.1 big block 4-spd did

it's a fascinating rabbit hole to go down, I have about 40,000 miles (60,000 kms) on my 2022.5 refresh high output and its the best half ton motor choice in the market period. not a gm guy or brand loyal, but I am a research guy and so on this go round it was the 2.7

you cannot go wrong with this motor, it's the 21st century interpretation of the cummins formula, on gas, for a half ton....big jug, long stroke, inline, single turbo...can't seize it, no lifters (common warranty item on the v8's) etc. the 2.7 is the least worked on by the gm techs, gets great mileage when you want/empty etc. but it can pull big time work duty and suck the same fuel as the 6.2 because it can do the same work as the 6.2...at 4000' elevation with naturally aspirated power loss of 3% every 1000' and only 0.05% loss from boosted engines the 2.7 actually has 22 ft/lbs more torque than the 6.2...

anyhow, lots one can learn about this motor or you could just ask on hunting forums lol...you're welcome

That is why the Ford Maverick is brilliant and I am seeing a lot of them around here.

haha I see that too, 90's mini truck crossed with a Subaru baja crossed with a Subaru wrx turbo motor....what's not to love, an awd mini-truck that boogies, throw some Michelin cross climate 2's on it, should be a sweet golf/ski/commute machine lol, maybe even day trip hunting machine also, I just bought one to daily and keep the miles off my half ton, just couldn't bring myself to do a car, will pick it up in about an hour, good value, base xl with the 4k tow and a couple small extra's...boosted 4 bangers are the bomb

My son bought a 2.7L Silverado about 8 months ago or so in FL. 20K miles now and no problems. It’s his daily driver. Not much off road time because of his schedule, but has had it on the beach a few times. He really likes it.

I drove it last month during a Christmas visit. Seems like a nice truck. Not trading my superduty just yet though.

Recently drove one of the new Colorados with this motor for a bit. Very capable it seems. Mileage is about what you would expect for a motor with that kind of output. Not the mpg of the 3.0 diesel for sure.

neighbor bought one. He loves it. From riding with him, it seems to do well around town, going to the bar or Home Depot.

Yep. My '22 non-H.O. now has ~33K miles without issue. Just returned from an 1150-mile hunting trip towing a flatbed trailer with a Polaris Ranger, 65-gallon water tank, and a bunch of gear and average 14MPG for the trip. It tows my 25' travel trailer very well. I live at 6K feet elevation and usually camp at 8K or better. If I needed to replace it, I'd probably buy the same truck.

How'd she figure that out?

Ouch!

Cracks me up, to insinuate a 4 cylinder is like a "6bt cummins". It's not.

Good engine though! A truck engine should always have a longer stroke than the bore diameter. It really helps push that torque down lower in the rpm range, where you need it.

The firing sequence of an inline six does this even better. I'd be willing to bet that the 3.0 duramax does even better, producing even more torque from idle-1800 rpms.

Not to mention, a far smoother engine. I bet that 2.7 must be vibey as fk above 3000 rpms.

Used to patrol the pipeline in 4bt cummins-powered snow cat. That fkn thing would rattle your brain apart.

Nope, smooth as can be all the way to redline.

Cracks me up people can’t read and comprehend lol.

Cummins formula: Inline, extra long stroke, big jugs, single turbo, diesel.

Gm 2.7 formula: Inline, long stroke, big jugs, single turbo, gas.

One is ancient all mechanical (6bt/4bt) turn of last century type sh1t lol and 1200/750 lb motors. Counter balancing likely not much a worry back then.

The other is a clean sheet design using the same FORMULA with everything the latest this century can give us. We get a 21st century TRUCK motor, puts out more torque than gen 1 cummins, weighs so little in comparison to those iron tanks that it can go in midsize platforms, has double the hp. Why long stroke? Wat more torque than hp is why...it’s a truck formula.

Go ahead and run the formula on the rest of the half ton segment motors and see if anyone else as close to cummins as the GM 2.7.

I tried to save y’all some time. I do do my homework, you go ahead and do your own then, or spout off in ignorance which seems the American way lol.

GM is the only one who has developed an actual truck motor for half tons this century. Fords square stroke v6 twin turbos I don’t think qualify as they did put them in trucks but designed from cross platforms. The short stroke v8’s similar, sports cars or trucks. The diesels will be designed for trucks but there is only one true gas truck motor in segment. Doesn’t look like any others are coming either.

We’ve come a long way. The design formula is all truck. The displacement is what it is to meet the power levels they wanted. Big jugs drive turbos more efficiently, that’s why less cylinders, it’s goes on and on. If you’re smarter than the GM engineers who tell you about this in videos online then go ahead and tell us lol.

Or go learn about subject before you jump in on one leg and look the fool.

Haha, you fkn little twatt. I build 4wd engines. I don't care what you read.

The 3.0 inline 6 duramax diesel bests it in everything towing, fuel economy, low end torque. The 2.7 is a good base model engine, but it ain't no inline 6 truck engine bud.

I have two Ram trucks with the Cummins 6.7l, my 2500 daily driver and 3500 for towing my race car trailer. That is when I am not towing it with my RV that has a 8.9l Cummins. Also have a 2017 BMW X5 35d with their 3.0l inline six. I am a huge fan of inline 6 diesel engines. I like their torque curve and they are a bit easier to navigate around the engine bay when necessary in my opinion.

The odd ball is our 2012 Beetle with an inline 5 cylinder. It is gas and I am not sure of the design, but it is shockingly smooth at idle and higher RPMs.