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62 grain of Tac (all else the same) did 2960 and 1.2"/100 yards.
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This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting. https://imgur.com/a/13nOPTuAll else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max How bad were the groups that went 100fps slower? You gonna try the 225 TSX next?
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This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting. https://imgur.com/a/13nOPTuAll else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max How bad were the groups that went 100fps slower? You gonna try the 225 TSX next? Can not find any... (either way it will not work in a 2.8" mag) .or 200 TSX which I think is optimal due to length. Barnes does not list it anymore. Will be trying H4895 and Win 748 with the 200 TTSX though.
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Nice speeds and accuracy. That velocity/pressure should drop when temps fall during hunting season. I would be very happy with that load and would not go up any at all for sure.
Is that new brass? Did you shoot more than 1 group with the load that gave you 1.2 ? You might squeak a tad more accuracy with partial sized brass, but I would double and triple check for feeding if you do, for hunting. I would say anything MOA or under is good in your set up, and anything under is a bonus. I had a Hart 338/06 that shot 1/2" all day.........but what is really key is that your rifle is consistent, on your first cold bore shot for hunting, IMHO.
Did you float the barrel or do anything to your rifle, or is it all OEM? I'd suspect floated would give you the most consistent first shot POI and likely groups as well.
Congrats on finding an accurate load with great speeds.
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Nice speeds and accuracy. That velocity/pressure should drop when temps fall during hunting season. I would be very happy with that load and would not go up any at all for sure.
Is that new brass? Did you shoot more than 1 group with the load that gave you 1.2 ? You might squeak a tad more accuracy with partial sized brass, but I would double and triple check for feeding if you do, for hunting. I would say anything MOA or under is good in your set up, and anything under is a bonus. I had a Hart 338/06 that shot 1/2" all day.........but what is really key is that your rifle is consistent, on your first cold bore shot for hunting, IMHO.
Did you float the barrel or do anything to your rifle, or is it all OEM? I'd suspect floated would give you the most consistent first shot POI and likely groups as well.
Congrats on finding an accurate load with great speeds. To answer your questions. The loads are based on onced fired factory brass (200 gr Core loct) . I shot 3 shot groups with the loads. It was about 70* at the range yesterday. The gun was heavily customized by the previous owner through Hill Country rifles. Their full accuracy package, ceracoat, new bottom metal etc.....Everything done to it.
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Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX????
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Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX???? Not on their website no. I see 180 and 225 only in tsx flavor
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If you’re seeing ejector marks, you’re well above max…
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Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX???? Not on their website no. I see 180 and 225 only in tsx flavor I guess the tip can be ground down with no adverse affect to performance? Maybe take a file to it?
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I'm running 200TSX with and TAC powder with great results I was reading CZ550's most recent blog post (aka Bob Mitchell) about the .350 Remington Magnum a couple of days ago & he used this combination as well: https://bigborefan.wordpress.com/20...-that-punch-above-their-weight-class-p4/
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If you’re seeing ejector marks, you’re well above max… Absolutely, I know this hence the additional range time planned ahead. I don't think I can roll with that load. I am way too anal. I can not live with the ejector marks. That is telling me danger zone. Not good for the rifle, brass or me. Hopefully I can hit another node in the 59.5 to 61.5 of TAC. If not Win 748 and H4895 are next.
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Yeah. That was a good one.
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I would think the Whelen and 350 are ballistic twins, and very similar capacity?
Fotis, nice set up. Yes, I know you are not as hot as the South, I did look up temps your way. During hunting season if you see a drop in 30-40 degrees or more, it might affect performance. Not sure about the powders you are using, whether they are temp sensitive. I would say 2800-2900 is a good place to be based on some calculations I ran. You are in good shape no doubt for whatever you run into.
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Honestly... 2800 fps and MOA would be cartwheel time!
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225 over 59 gr of Varget in my Ruger M77 groups under MOA. Only game I've taken was an antlerless moose that dropped at the shot.
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I am getting 2842 FPS with 62 grs of TAC. My custom shop KS Model 7 gives me 3/4" at 100 yards. 60 grs was 1.5" 61 grs was about the same. 62 grs was the seet spot and never tried more. That gun is stupid light and range time is a chore.
I never shot it past 200 yards but planning on shooting it to 300 and maybe 400 just to vheck the ballistic app.
I plan on taking it with me on an elk hunt in early December along with my .30-06
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I am getting 2842 FPS with 62 grs of TAC. My custom shop KS Model 7 gives me 3/4" at 100 yards. 60 grs was 1.5" 61 grs was about the same. 62 grs was the seet spot and never tried more. That gun is stupid light and range time is a chore.
I never shot it past 200 yards but planning on shooting it to 300 and maybe 400 just to vheck the ballistic app.
I plan on taking it with me on an elk hunt in early December along with my .30-06 Which bullet are we talking about?
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200 TSX .350 Rem Mag from a 350 pound black bear I shot. I was in a treestand. Bullet went into the neck and and broke the joint on the opposite leg. Found just under the hide. Crazy penetration. 62grs TAC. 2842 FPS With no pressure signs. 20” barrel. Quick Load indicates it is way over pressure. As stated, Barnes goes to 64 grs. I have over 100 TSX left but if I couldn’t find any I would buy the TTSX and file down the tip. Should work fine. Worth trying.
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Man, that’ll do it! Nice recovery.
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