24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Due to magazine limits what is the best all around bullet for bear elk and deer in the 350???? Any loads that have worked for you would be great thank you


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
HR IC

Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 318
D
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
D
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 318
200gr TTSX @ 2850fps seems like a great place to start.

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 5,625
Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 5,625
Likes: 1
If you can find them, I like the Sierra 225gr BST #2850.

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Deere_Man
200gr TTSX @ 2850fps seems like a great place to start.



Isn't this bullet a little too long for the 350??? Also what is your load for this kind of velocity


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
I use the 180 TTSX in my 350 Rem Fotis. Knocks on nearly 2900 with the shorty barrel and shoots great with H4895.

Not sure if the 200 TTSX would be too long but being as they like to jump, I'd be fine loading it to 2.8 and giving it a go.


Semper Fi
IC B2

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 506
W
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
W
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 506
Well I just traded off my Rem 600 350 mag. I bought it new in around 65-66 but taken a bit of game with it from elk to moose and the only bullets I’d recommend are the Hawk 225-250 grainers. They print 1.5 inches same place either bullet. Blow both shoulders out of a moose. No other bullets have worked so well in this rifle

BTW what are you shooting, barrel length and twist

Rick

Last edited by Woodpecker; 08/06/23.
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 6
W
WMR Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 6
Scrounge up some Partitions in 250gr, or best of all, 225gr. The Speer 250 also covers a lot of possibilities. The 200 Hornady will whack deer.
,

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,754
Likes: 5
N
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
N
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,754
Likes: 5
225 Partition.


NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,401
R
Campfire Tracker
Online Shocked
Campfire Tracker
R
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,401
I'm running 200TSX with and TAC powder with great results


Rick
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Thanks for your input


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
IC B3

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 14,187
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 14,187
Likes: 1
I’ve got the best accuracy with a Speer 200 grain round nose.


Well we're Green and we're Gold, and we play better when it's cold. All us Cheese heads have our favorite superstar. We love Brett Favre.
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,344
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,344
Originally Posted by rc82bttb
I'm running 200TSX with and TAC powder with great results

This!

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Originally Posted by rc82bttb
I'm running 200TSX with and TAC powder with great results

Me too. I also like the 225 gr Woodleigh IF you are lucky enough to find some.


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,479
Likes: 3
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 13,479
Likes: 3
No experience with the 350 Rem mag but plenty with the 35 Whelen. I ended up sticking with the Speer 250 grain spitzer. Shoots great, always expands and I never recovered one. That said I also am very fond of the same weight Nosler Partition. Just that so far I can't pick one over the other. Speeds around 2500 fps.


Dog I rescued in January

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]



Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,522
B
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 2,522
I’m running 225gr nosler partitions over RL-15 in mine, at 2675 fps. It’s a 700 classic bedded into a factory 700 titanium stock. The two black bears and one coyote I’ve shot with it have traveled a total of about 15 yards after impact.


Oh, and believe it or not, deer bite. Fairly hard.
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 496
E
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
E
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 496
Another vote here for the 225 grain partition. Accurate, dependable and able to get decent velocity since it doesn't eat up quite so much of the available case capacity.

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,967
Likes: 5
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,967
Likes: 5
200 grain TTSX is a great .358 bullet.



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,290
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,290
I use locally made 200gn Hollow points and 56gn of RL10X for a 10 shot average of 2851fps. My rifle is a 1969 made Rem 700BDL with 24" barrel.




[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
I'll try the 200 TTSX hopefully they won't be too long. Should have this on Friday.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,393
W
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
W
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,393
I only hunt deer so I run the Speer 180. But I have loaded the Hornady 200 with Re7 and found it shot just as well in my Rem 673. I have a bunch of the Sperrs so I load them.

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
This is going to be primarily for elk.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
I've killed elk, both bulls, with my M7 .350RM using both the 225 Sierra and 225 Nosler Partitions.

Both bullets worked at 2730+ FPS. Prefer the NPs because of the increased BCs although the Sierras were "slightly" more accurate. This issue right now is going to be availability as I've been looking for Nosler's, Sierra's and Barnes 200 grns for a while now.

Last edited by Chuck_R; 08/09/23.

“Might does not make right but it sure makes what is.”
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Chuck_R
I've killed elk, both bulls, with my M7 .350RM using both the 225 Sierra and 225 Nosler Partitions.

Both bullets worked at 2730+ FPS. Prefer the NPs because of the increased BCs although the Sierras were "slightly" more accurate. This issue right now is going to be availability as I've been looking for Nosler's, Sierra's and Barnes 200 grns for a while now.


What were your loads?


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
I ran 2 bullets in mine for hunting:

225 Sierra for deer
225 Partition for an Elk load

158 RP HP/SP were hell on milk jugs at 200 yds but fell out.

In a 35, driving the 225s to around 2700, I feel that is the best balance of usable trajectory, with great bullet construction, BC/SD.

I think the 200 is a better bullet in the 338/08 or a 338-06 or bigger capacity for deer. BC/SD is the reason.....

Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by Chuck_R
I've killed elk, both bulls, with my M7 .350RM using both the 225 Sierra and 225 Nosler Partitions.

Both bullets worked at 2730+ FPS. Prefer the NPs because of the increased BCs although the Sierras were "slightly" more accurate. This issue right now is going to be availability as I've been looking for Nosler's, Sierra's and Barnes 200 grns for a while now.


What were your loads?

IMR4320, 60.7 grns, over FED215. Pretty much right out of the Nosler manual. My M7 is from the custom shop with a 20" barrel.

For deer lately I've been loading Hornady 200SP Interlocks, mostly because I can get them, and they shoot well. I'm working new loads now using TAC trying to get a little more MV, plus IMR4320 has gone extinct and I've only got about 3/4s of a lb left.


“Might does not make right but it sure makes what is.”
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,967
B
Campfire Regular
Online Content
Campfire Regular
B
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,967
The Sierra 225 is my favorite. I run it about 2600fps. I’ve killed 6 elk with that bullet, 2 out of a Whelen. 5 of the elk were drt, one went 10 feet. Also killed a handful of deer with it, one of those made 2 bounds. The rest hit the dirt.
I limit my range to 350 yds with this combo. Drops like a cannon ball after that.

If it’s still made, the Speer 220 is another great bullet out of the 350.

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Thanks fellas.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 12,148
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 12,148
Fotis;
Good morning to you sir, I hope the day in Cheyenne is behaving for you and you're all well.

With the understanding that none of this is my personal experience with the bullets, I'll offer what I've been told.

Last year a friend asked that I give him a hand getting a .350 Rem Mag built on a SS 700 LA as his work as a geologist often has him out and about without cell service.

After a couple smiths who'd never done one, I called Greg up at Corlane Sports in Dawson Creek, BC and chose them for the task within a couple minutes talking with him.

He's part owner of the place and I want to say they've got 4 or 5 smiths working there so do a fairly good business working on mostly rifles.

Greg said that he used a .350 Rem Mag when guiding up there and had built a few for other guides as well. Usually they were building them on Tikka T3 actions so then they didn't have the short action magazine restrictions.

When we talked about bullets, he said they've had very good results with the 225gr TSX on everything up north - moose, elk, bison and though there's no season now - grizzly when we still had a season - as well as being not the worst choice for deer or sheep. He also had very good things to say about the 200gr TSX.

When he agreed to do the rebarrel job I was looking to get done, he said he'd have to change out the factory detachable box mag system because they just didn't have luck making them feed 100%.

They ended up putting in a Quick Klip system for buddy - which Greg said they've had very good success with - and supplied a pair of magazines which they tested to ensure feeding. Buddy reports they both feed 100%.

While buddy has found 250gr Partitions, 200gr and 250gr TSX and loads that shoot them, he didn't connect with anything last season so no bullet testing on game with his rifle so far.

Hopefully that's useful for you or someone out there.

Good luck with your hunt whichever bullet you end up using and all the best.

Dwayne


The most important stuff in life isn't "stuff"

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
For those of you guys that are using the 200 grain TTSX is a doable at 2.8 in overall length. Is there enough shank to seat into place. Are you using a crimp?Thank you


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 10,998
Likes: 3
M
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
M
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 10,998
Likes: 3
I’m a huge Barnes fan, but with your velocities I’d look very seriously at the Hornady 250 grain Spire Point! They’re great bullets at your velocities and are usually very accurate! memtb

Last edited by memtb; 08/11/23.

You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel

“I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by jwp475
200 grain TTSX is a great .358 bullet.


At 2.8" overall length??


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
That TTSX 200 will be longer than a cup/core being copper.......so your bullet length will be longer than say a 200 SP. I think it will have plenty to have neck tension.

Curious what ranges will you be typically shooting on game?

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Under 300 for elk


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 497
2
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
2
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 497
250gr Speer's in my 35W for bears and moose out to 250ish.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Definitely capable to 300y, 200 gr is the lightest I would run personally in a 35. Not run ballistics to see drop, retained energy of 200 vs 225s, but would be interesting. Given the caliber, I would suspect it will open fine to that range, being a mono.

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Originally Posted by Fotis
For those of you guys that are using the 200 grain TTSX is a doable at 2.8 in overall length. Is there enough shank to seat into place. Are you using a crimp?Thank you

Yes, yes and no. I am using it in rem custom shop KS model 7 with TAC.

2842 fps out of a 20” barrel.

Edit: TSX not TTSX

Last edited by Sakoluvr; 08/12/23.

Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 147
D
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
D
Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 147
350 Rem Mag
Sierra 225 SBT's
IMR 4895 (58-59gr)
Fed 215

seated for the appropriate mag box(s)
velocities per Bbl length(s)

700 BDL
700 Classic
Seven KS
Seven AWR
660
XP-100R


Keep 'em in the X Ring,
DAN
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 858
Likes: 3
R
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
R
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 858
Likes: 3
This is my M-10, 98 Mauser in 350 RM. I built it with a 1-14 twist 26" Shaw barrel. Cut a big leaf maple stock, rear is a similar to a Richards dual grip, pistol grip forward is a Mauser cut with Madagascar Ebony tip, recoil bolt plugs and cap, stained with steel wool soaked four days in vinegar acid wash. 100% glass bedded action and bottom metal w free floated barrel. The maple is a bit denser and heavier than walnut, on purpose.

I use the 200 Rem RN and 200 RCBS hard cast for fun and deer. The 225s for more serious work. Mostly I use a fairly stout load of H-4350 and load it like my 35 Whelen in a M-700, the reason for the dual grip and the thick recoil pad. I can if necessary use the 250s with the long action. This rifle will shoot 1/2" groups with the 200 grain bullet combinations,

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


“To expect defeat is nine-tenths of defeat itself. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is best to plan for all eventualities then believe in success, and only cross the failure bridge if you come to it."
Francis Marion - The Swamp Fox
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

All else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 318
D
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
D
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 318
Originally Posted by Fotis
This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting.

https://imgur.com/a/13nOPTu

All else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max

How bad were the groups that went 100fps slower?

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
62 grain of Tac (all else the same) did 2960 and 1.2"/100 yards.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 318
D
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
D
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 318
Originally Posted by Deere_Man
Originally Posted by Fotis
This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting.

https://imgur.com/a/13nOPTu

All else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max

How bad were the groups that went 100fps slower?

You gonna try the 225 TSX next?

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Deere_Man
Originally Posted by Deere_Man
Originally Posted by Fotis
This is the best load I had today. Theoretically this is one grain under max ..... max being 64 grains of tac. Velocity is way up there and I can tell you it is absolutely maximum load. It did show some slight ejector mark but she scooting.

https://imgur.com/a/13nOPTu

All else being equal I wish you was a hundred feet per second less with the same accuracy I just don't like being close to Max

How bad were the groups that went 100fps slower?

You gonna try the 225 TSX next?


Can not find any... (either way it will not work in a 2.8" mag) .or 200 TSX which I think is optimal due to length. Barnes does not list it anymore.

Will be trying H4895 and Win 748 with the 200 TTSX though.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Nice speeds and accuracy. That velocity/pressure should drop when temps fall during hunting season. I would be very happy with that load and would not go up any at all for sure.

Is that new brass? Did you shoot more than 1 group with the load that gave you 1.2 ? You might squeak a tad more accuracy with partial sized brass, but I would double and triple check for feeding if you do, for hunting. I would say anything MOA or under is good in your set up, and anything under is a bonus. I had a Hart 338/06 that shot 1/2" all day.........but what is really key is that your rifle is consistent, on your first cold bore shot for hunting, IMHO.

Did you float the barrel or do anything to your rifle, or is it all OEM? I'd suspect floated would give you the most consistent first shot POI and likely groups as well.

Congrats on finding an accurate load with great speeds.

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by 65BR
Nice speeds and accuracy. That velocity/pressure should drop when temps fall during hunting season. I would be very happy with that load and would not go up any at all for sure.

Is that new brass? Did you shoot more than 1 group with the load that gave you 1.2 ? You might squeak a tad more accuracy with partial sized brass, but I would double and triple check for feeding if you do, for hunting. I would say anything MOA or under is good in your set up, and anything under is a bonus. I had a Hart 338/06 that shot 1/2" all day.........but what is really key is that your rifle is consistent, on your first cold bore shot for hunting, IMHO.

Did you float the barrel or do anything to your rifle, or is it all OEM? I'd suspect floated would give you the most consistent first shot POI and likely groups as well.

Congrats on finding an accurate load with great speeds.

To answer your questions.

The loads are based on onced fired factory brass (200 gr Core loct) . I shot 3 shot groups with the loads. It was about 70* at the range yesterday.

The gun was heavily customized by the previous owner through Hill Country rifles. Their full accuracy package, ceracoat, new bottom metal etc.....Everything done to it.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX????


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX????
Not on their website no. I see 180 and 225 only in tsx flavor


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,754
Likes: 5
N
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
N
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,754
Likes: 5
If you’re seeing ejector marks, you’re well above max…


NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Originally Posted by Fotis
Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
Dang, Barnes is not listing the .358 200 gr TSX????
Not on their website no. I see 180 and 225 only in tsx flavor


I guess the tip can be ground down with no adverse affect to performance? Maybe take a file to it?


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 711
Likes: 2
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 711
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by rc82bttb
I'm running 200TSX with and TAC powder with great results

I was reading CZ550's most recent blog post (aka Bob Mitchell) about the .350 Remington Magnum a couple of days ago & he used this combination as well:

https://bigborefan.wordpress.com/20...-that-punch-above-their-weight-class-p4/

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Interesting article!


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by navlav8r
If you’re seeing ejector marks, you’re well above max…


Absolutely, I know this hence the additional range time planned ahead.

I don't think I can roll with that load. I am way too anal. I can not live with the ejector marks. That is telling me danger zone. Not good for the rifle, brass or me. Hopefully I can hit another node in the 59.5 to 61.5 of TAC. If not Win 748 and H4895 are next.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Fotis
Interesting article!

Yeah. That was a good one.


Semper Fi
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
I would think the Whelen and 350 are ballistic twins, and very similar capacity?

Fotis, nice set up. Yes, I know you are not as hot as the South, I did look up temps your way. During hunting season if you see a drop in 30-40 degrees or more, it might affect performance. Not sure about the powders you are using, whether they are temp sensitive. I would say 2800-2900 is a good place to be based on some calculations I ran. You are in good shape no doubt for whatever you run into.

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Honestly... 2800 fps and MOA would be cartwheel time!


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 21,317
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 21,317
225 over 59 gr of Varget in my Ruger M77 groups under MOA. Only game I've taken was an antlerless moose that dropped at the shot.

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
I am getting 2842 FPS with 62 grs of TAC. My custom shop KS Model 7 gives me 3/4" at 100 yards. 60 grs was 1.5" 61 grs was about the same. 62 grs was the seet spot and never tried more. That gun is stupid light and range time is a chore.

I never shot it past 200 yards but planning on shooting it to 300 and maybe 400 just to vheck the ballistic app.

I plan on taking it with me on an elk hunt in early December along with my .30-06


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
I am getting 2842 FPS with 62 grs of TAC. My custom shop KS Model 7 gives me 3/4" at 100 yards. 60 grs was 1.5" 61 grs was about the same. 62 grs was the seet spot and never tried more. That gun is stupid light and range time is a chore.

I never shot it past 200 yards but planning on shooting it to 300 and maybe 400 just to vheck the ballistic app.

I plan on taking it with me on an elk hunt in early December along with my .30-06

Which bullet are we talking about?


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
200 TSX .350 Rem Mag from a 350 pound black bear I shot. I was in a treestand. Bullet went into the neck and and broke the joint on the opposite leg. Found just under the hide. Crazy penetration.

62grs TAC. 2842 FPS With no pressure signs. 20” barrel. Quick Load indicates it is way over pressure. As stated, Barnes goes to 64 grs.

I have over 100 TSX left but if I couldn’t find any I would buy the TTSX and file down the tip. Should work fine. Worth trying.


[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
Man, that’ll do it! Nice recovery.


Semper Fi
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Got an email from Barnes. They will be making a bunch of the 200 TSX soon again.

I got reminders no many seller's websites out.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Fotis
Got an email from Barnes. They will be making a bunch of the 200 TSX soon again.

I got reminders no many seller's websites out.

Excellant!

I sent them an Email about 5 moths ago asking IF the 200TSX was discontinued as it no longer appeared on their site and a rep told me then that they had no plans of getting rid of them. With Nosler and Sierra not producing their 225s the 200TSX is about the only good elk bullet available for guys with a 2.8" mag box.


“Might does not make right but it sure makes what is.”
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
B
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
B
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,334
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by Fotis
Got an email from Barnes. They will be making a bunch of the 200 TSX soon again.

I got reminders no many seller's websites out.

That 200 TTSX is a ripper in a Whelen..

[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]


Semper Fi
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Works well in mine also Scott.

61 gr of TAC 2850 fps and .69"


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Went out again yesterday with somewhat reduced loads from last time.

I think I got it.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,967
Likes: 5
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,967
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by Fotis
Got an email from Barnes. They will be making a bunch of the 200 TSX soon again.

I got reminders no many seller's websites out.

200 TSX or do you mean 200 TTSX?



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
200 tsx John. They should start production again in September or sometime. The TTSX can be found all over the place right now


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 637
C
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
C
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 637
The barnes 200 ttsx is the cats "butt" in my 358 norma, 358 win, and now the 358 wsm. I have went lighter too with Barnes and they are a hammer too, but i think the 200
s fly just a bit better.

Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 499
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Fotis
200 tsx John. They should start production again in September or sometime. The TTSX can be found all over the place right now

Midway just got them in.. 200 TSX, so I've got a couple boxes inbound.


“Might does not make right but it sure makes what is.”
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
Fotis Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,283
Likes: 4
I was going to order some but the TTSX shot so well.


https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com
μολὼν λαβέ

"Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
Really enjoying this post , as I will be in the process of some load development for my 660 Rem. Sold this to a friend about 5 years ago, and was able to get it back from him recently. I believe he got a case of "scope eye" from it ! I remember when I shot it years ago, had a few loads that shot reasonably well , but not sure what they were, so starting over. I am pretty sure one was the Nosler custom ammo load , with the 225 grain bullet . I have plenty of brass , and a wide arrange of bullets. I am thinking the 150 grain bullets might be good for the local whitetails around here, maybe at around 2800-2900 ? Will also be after black bear soon, and had heard good from a friend of mine who had good luck with the 200 grain RN Hornady, in a 358 Win . Bear hunt will be from a stand, average shots no more than 75 yds . Really need to buy some Barnes bullets and give them a try too, great accuracy with them in some other calibers .


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,476
I suggest using a mouth expander die, like the Lee Universal when seating the flat base Barnes. It was suggested to me, and has helped with concentricity. It doesn’t take much to open the mouth and hold the bullet.


Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper

After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,078
Likes: 2
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 5,078
Likes: 2
Have been running 250gr speer's out of the 600 at around 2465fps. While it shoots, I'm not going to lie, that's a little bit much for me. Will probly back it down to 200gr or 225's an see if it is a lil more enjoyable to shoot

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Pretty happy with the way the 150's shot. I guess they were originally for the Rem 35 , probably hard to find now.

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,930
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 6,930
I use the 180 gr Speer in my XP-100 pistol. It was hell on whitetail last year and unless I find something that shoots better I will use it again this year. I’ve got some 200 gr Hornady that I want to play with.


Selmer

"Daddy, can you sometime maybe please go shoot a water buffalo so we can have that for supper? Please? And can I come along? Does it taste like deer?"
- my 3-year old daughter smile
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
I just loaded and shot some 180 Speers ,using Imr 4320 - under an inch 3 shot at 100 . Im done load development, going with that one .

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,235
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,235
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by kenster99
I just loaded and shot some 180 Speers ,using Imr 4320 - under an inch 3 shot at 100 . Im done load development, going with that one .

Whats your velocity?

Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,235
Likes: 2
Teeder, not chronographed, but guessing about 2650-2700 with the 20 “ barrel.

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,071
Likes: 2
S
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,071
Likes: 2
Northeast Whitetail load 180 Speer [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178
Likes: 5
D
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
D
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178
Likes: 5
Originally Posted by sqweeler
Northeast Whitetail load 180 Speer [Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]
That’ll work.

DF

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

442 members (12344mag, 204guy, 1badf350, 163bc, 10Glocks, 10gaugemag, 41 invisible), 2,108 guests, and 1,141 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,219
Posts18,504,130
Members73,994
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.217s Queries: 174 (0.086s) Memory: 1.2523 MB (Peak: 1.6309 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-11 12:46:53 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS