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memtb, HJ is very confident of his vast knowledge. I once asked him how many elk he had taken. His reply was I will show you a couple this fall. I don't follow him much just when I come across his tidbits of knowledge. lol. No all of us were successful this fall in all our hunts, but this guy makes me wonder what and where he has done anything.

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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
memtb, HJ is very confident of his vast knowledge. I once asked him how many elk he had taken. His reply was I will show you a couple this fall. I don't follow him much just when I come across is tidbits of knowledge. lol. No all of us were successful this fall in all our hunts, but this guy makes me wonder what and where he has done anything.


Thanks partner! I’ve had him on ignore for a long time…..but, caved to my curiosity as to what his comment was!

Definitely a weakness on my part!


I again apologize to the group! memtb

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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
memtb, HJ is very confident of his vast knowledge. I once asked him how many elk he had taken. His reply was I will show you a couple this fall. I don't follow him much just when I come across his tidbits of knowledge. lol. No all of us were successful this fall in all our hunts, but this guy makes me wonder what and where he has done anything.

Actually I take advice from people that actually know stuff (not memtb). Then I go put that advice to use in a real life setting. It's really simple.

And no, unfortunately I didn't double up on elk this year. Only a bull. Bummer.

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I am sure it is. How dozen elk does that make you?


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Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
I am sure it is. How dozen elk does that make you?

Why so angry? Because I disagree with you?

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Not angry I just would like to know how much experience you have, not your pals.


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I've killed enough animals to know monos suck. I'll keep using "match" bullets and keep killing stuff. You keep sitting on the couch and reminiscing

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I really don't sit on the couch reminising. Seem touchy there. Just what I thought.

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Back on bullets please.


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Back to bullets

I usually post this with the title of Data Points.

The last 7 years we have been fortunate to draw tags to hunt cow elk in late December. This year I used a 7mm-08 with factory Barnes 120 TTSX bullet.
i just posted in the Image Gallery, and it was a pass through at 381 yards

With the caveat that this has been strictly cow elk, the following were used:

2- 7mm-08 ( 140 grn Trophy Cooper and 120 grn TTSX
2- 308 ( 165 grn Accubond and 150 grn TTSX)
3- 270 ( 130 grn TTSX)

Ranges between 270 and 400 yards and all pass throughs with one exception being the 150 grn TTSX found under the skin on the off side.

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270 @ 3100fpsMV cow at 315 yards one shot.
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Staggered about 20 yards and went down.


I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all.
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Which version of X is that?


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Originally Posted by bwinters
Which version of X is that?
130 TTSX


I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all.
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Thanks.


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Originally Posted by Blacktailer
270 @ 3100fpsMV cow at 315 yards one shot.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Staggered about 20 yards and went down.

At the risk of having my "rifle looney" card revoked, makes you wonder why we bother with anything else for 99% of our big game hunting.....


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I am sorta thinking of making it a Hammer bullet try out this year. I might load up a few in my main guns and try them out for myself. A few good folks I trust have done really well with them last fall. So far I have picked up some 189 and 196's for my 300 RUM/H&H and 172 Absolute Hammers to try in the Mashburn. Need to get a bullet for the 338's and maybe a small one for my 7-08.. Figured it might be cool to give them a solid run in a few guns I use for elk and deer.


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I'd be really interested in how they work out.


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Originally Posted by bwinters
I'd be really interested in how they work out.

Bill, there are a few lurking about on here that have used them on deer and elk and reported excellent stuff. I think the fragging front end maybe the missing link, but who the heck knows. I know from the few I have worked with in the Whelen and the RUM previously, they shoot without fuss. Just load them to mag length in most guns and get to shooting.


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Anyone killed elk with the Speer 165 Hot Cor from any 300 WSM or close to it? I'm wondering how they do, I can load them short enough through this new to me Kimber.

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How about any 300 Mag and the old Speer 180 Mag Tip? I have a friend, an Afrikaner in South Africa) that uses/well used, the 180 Mag Tip out of his Remington 700 .308 and a 300WM he built himself ( a Bofors* machine gun barrel, chambered for the Win Mag and screwed into a Musgrave Receiver) for culling operations. Shoot game all night, reload ammo all morning, sleep all afternoon he said, ha. He tried to head shoot, of course, but sometimes had to shoot at the biggest part he could see in the kill area. He shot alot of Cape eland with both rifles. Maybe still does, lost track of him 20yrs ago. Afrikaner's are "different, Mrs Gump".

* He was soldier and the part-time Armorer in his Army unit that fought the ANC (Mandela's buddies) Commies on the Border and later Cubans in Angola. He said he had access to equipment to turn that Bofors barrel down to manageable weight. It looked like a Varmint barrel. Crude but this was during the Sanctions, a Hunter left him the Remington 700 before the Apartheid sanctions I mean. He shot alot of "elk sized critters" and used alot of bullets ( wherever and from whomever) so he learned alot. I "know" what he told me about how they did (very well) and I wanted to "ask" how you guys liked them on elk. I just thought this would fit here, (since I have always been obsessed with elk) if not, please excuse my ignorance? smile lol

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