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America is (supposed to be) a Republic, NOT a democracy. Learn the difference, help end the lie. Fear a government that fears your guns.
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it seems alot of these law just don't hold up if pressed. Good video. Hope it holds
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It is a local trial court opinion, may or may not get reversed.
still, having read the opinion, it is well reasoned.
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it seems alot of these law just don't hold up if pressed. Good video. Hope it holds Interpreted fairly and correctly, the US Constitution prohibits most leftist BS that goes on at every level of American government.
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That just came down, the post is yesterday. The Judge seemed to cross his T's and dot his I's well.
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Not "local" Court. State Appellate (or Mass. Equivalent) . District Courts (local) are Commercial equity Administrative Tribunals, can't raise a Constitutional Defense in a Commercial "Court" .
They are all Contract law . Been there done that.
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Here is the Link to the opinion of the court https://www.docdroid.net/524o4XV/opinion-coffey-comm-v-donnell-pdfIts from Lowell District Court. BMT
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This should be the opening door for constitutional carry in all States!
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There's a good reason there used to be an "open season- - - -no limit" on damyankees!
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This should be the opening door for constitutional carry in all States! Nope a few states will find some way to get around it. New York and Kommiefornia quickly come to mind.
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This should be the opening door for constitutional carry in all States! Nope a few states will find some way to get around it. New York and Kommiefornia quickly come to mind. I think his point was that these cases will inevitably rise to the Supreme Court, where they will become settled national law.
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This is a permit to carry concealed case.
NOT a constitutional carry (no permit) case.
It is really just and extension of the Privileges and Immunities clause.
Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution, which states: "the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."
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This should be the opening door for constitutional carry in all States! Nope a few states will find some way to get around it. New York and Kommiefornia quickly come to mind. I think his point was that these cases will inevitably rise to the Supreme Court, where they will become settled national law. I doubt that due to the fact that 27 or 28 states now have both constitutional or licensed carry. Aug 1 Nebraska became one of those. While it may 10-15 years down the road force a few remaining states to capitulate this case wasn’t about that.
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This is a permit to carry concealed case.
NOT a constitutional carry (no permit) case.
It is really just and extension of the Privileges and Immunities clause.
Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution, which states: "the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."
BMT Please explain. The opening line in the decision states that Mr Donnell was charged with carrying a firearm without a license. That seems like Constitutional Carry to me. Even if it pertains only to non-residents of the state. I especially like that the judge spoke to transport requirements, and that such negates the actual 2'nd Amendment use of the firearm. How long will any state's residents put up with restrictive gun laws once those residents learn that nonresidents are free to carry as they please?
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I'm mystified that nobody questions our 1st Amendment rights in all 50 states, but we need endless court rulings that have dragged out over decades to affirm our 2nd Amendment right in all 50 states????
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Please explain.
The opening line in the decision states that Mr Donnell was charged with carrying a firearm without a license. That seems like Constitutional Carry to me. Even if it pertains only to non-residents of the state. The issue is in compliance with NH law. How does the MA court know that without making a finding about NH law? The permit allows the judge to avoid that issue. Its hard to know. I assumed permit. But NH has both (permit and Const carry). BMT
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That is not the issue at all. You are proving the rule of assumption. Might want to watch the ENTIRE video again.
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A Constitution Right can not be denied by State law. Crossing an invisible line on a map does not make one a Felon.
I believe was the pertinent controlling language, and how it is interpreted in conjunction with Heller.
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This is a permit to carry concealed case.
NOT a constitutional carry (no permit) case.
It is really just and extension of the Privileges and Immunities clause.
Article IV, Section 2 of the Constitution, which states: "the citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."
BMT Please explain. How long will any state's residents put up with restrictive gun laws once those residents learn that nonresidents are free to carry as they please? The left coast states, Illinois, and blue eastern states' residents want restrictive gun laws.
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I wonder if it would impact New York City? A state permit is worthless in the city.
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