This was the best interview on addiction (in it's many forms) I have ever heard. I just bought her book on Kindle.... which was sort of an instant gratification move
I have no issues with what I heard in the first 7 minutes or so, but..................................
are we here at the Campfire now supposed to believe a woman academic from, as Mr Carlson noted, one of the Nation's foremost Universities, Stanford (in California even)?
Sheesh.
PS, is there a transcript of Carlson's shows that a fella could read through quickly instead of spending an hour listening to them yakking?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
No one, at least not I, is scoffing at it. I can't and won't speak for Travis/Dave/Clark......................he's a big boy now and can speak for himself.
Just pointing out some seeming hypocrisy around this place...........science and scientists suck...........don't believe the science..................they know how to cook the statistics............blah blah blah...............especially the ones from a California institution..............they all have an "agenda"..............
unless it's something someone "believes" and the science agrees with their beliefs.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
No one, at least not I, is scoffing at it. I can't and won't speak for Travis/Dave/Clark......................he's a big boy now and can speak for himself.
Just pointing out some seeming hypocrisy around this place...........science and scientists suck...........don't believe the science..................they know how to cook the statistics............blah blah blah...............especially the ones from a California institution..............they all have an "agenda"..............
unless it's something someone "believes" and the science agrees with their beliefs.
I must admit that being a psychiatrist from Stanford was a mark against her in my view too. I have been liking the post Fox Tucker well enough to listen to the whole thing. It was worth my time.
About a million years ago I worked in a College counseling center where we had a grant for substance abuse prevention and treatment. The grant came after a string of fraternity house alcohol poisonings. Research showed that College students are way more receptive to listening to their peers than pretty much anyone else.
We trained a group of peer alcohol (and other drug) educators with a focus on what is use what is abuse and what is dependence... what are the boundary markers. We also worked in what can you do for someone you are concerned about.
Sober leisure skills are a big part of prevention/treatment. Basically how do you make social connections with out getting wasted first.
Lastly part of what I liked about this authors presentation was her description of how first World Countries have huge amounts of depression anxiety and loneliness despite the abundance of resources available. She suggests that we "self medicate" pain away with technology rather than reflecting on our life. Some amount of pain is to be expected trying to mask it all away is a bad thing.
Social media, gaming, porn, binge eating junk food, random "hook ups" for sex online.... all mask pain short term. I understand why Tucker booked her even though she is from California.
The biggest risk factor is easy access. History books proclaim Prohibition a failure, but it produced a big drop in alcoholism, public drunkenness, and alcohol-caused liver disease, which rose again after repeal. Today, it seems, all indulgences are accessible. Since around 2000, the rampant overprescription of narcotics has produced skyrocketing addiction and death. The internet allows us to engage in social as well as unseemly activities in private. Popular medical books rely on vivid case histories, and Lembke offers plenty. Her first is a lifelong masturbation addict who was ultimately able to achieve control. There follow accounts of other types of addicts, and she describes her treatment strategy based on the acronym DOPAMINE: data, objectives, problems, abstinence, mindfulness, insight, next steps, and experiment. Most readers will find it reasonable, and the author does not trumpet its success rate. Some of the most insightful passages involve lying, a malignant process in a cooperative society but essential to maintaining addictive behavior.
Huh, I always thought dopamine was a real chemical bodily reaction, not an acronym coined by booksellers.
I must admit that being a psychiatrist from Stanford was a mark against her in my view too. I have been liking the post Fox Tucker well enough to listen to the whole thing. It was worth my time.
About a million years ago I worked in a College counseling center where we had a grant for substance abuse prevention and treatment. The grant came after a string of fraternity house alcohol poisonings. Research showed that College students are way more receptive to listening to their peers than pretty much anyone else.
We trained a group of peer alcohol (and other drug) educators with a focus on what is use what is abuse and what is dependence... what are the boundary markers. We also worked in what can you do for someone you are concerned about.
Sober leisure skills are a big part of prevention/treatment. Basically how do you make social connections with out getting wasted first.
Lastly part of what I liked about this authors presentation was her description of how first World Countries have huge amounts of depression anxiety and loneliness despite the abundance of resources available. She suggests that we "self medicate" pain away with technology rather than reflecting on our life. Some amount of pain is to be expected trying to mask it all away is a bad thing.
Social media, gaming, porn, binge eating junk food, random "hook ups" for sex online.... all mask pain short term. I understand why Tucker booked her even though she is from California.
Inebriation is not good for anybody.
Neither is porn.
It's not complicated.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
I think today's culture expects or demands there be a cure for each and every discomfort or concern. Prior generations viewed such as part of life and simply muddled through.
I think today's culture expects or demands there be a cure for each and every discomfort or concern. Prior generations viewed such as part of life and simply muddled through.
They also beat the living schit Out of busy-bodies.
Without repercussion.
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
I think today's culture expects or demands there be a cure for each and every discomfort or concern. Prior generations viewed such as part of life and simply muddled through.
Prior generations didn’t have yellow China flooding g the streets with fentanyl.
I've read the first 4 chapters of her book now. She presents case file reports from her practice. I learned something new. Apparently there is a masturbation device that uses electricity in a similar way TENS units are used to treat pain. I also learned there are chat rooms where people hook them selves up to this device on camera and allow others to "control the unit".
A guy came to her office because his wife caught him allowing a dominatrix on a chat room to demonstrate her ability to keep him hard without an orgasm for a very long time. Like a pervy Zoom call with others cheering her on.... Apparently his wife was quit displeased to walk in on this show.
