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You guys don't knock Turkey! They are killing it with some shotguns right now. I have a Girsan that rocks! And although I haven't experienced it firsthand, I read they have some handguns that are worth looking into. Here is my take on it! Everyone has a computer. Companies selling these piece of [bleep] firearms are getting called out. They ALL know if they want to sell guns, they have to be good. They are all changing their machinery to make better weapons.
A 380 in my pocket is better than a 45 in my truck!
Violence may not be the best option... but it's still an option.
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." General James Mad Dog Mattis
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At first I thought it was a rebadged Savage.
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Have a friend who just got one....1 inch average at 50 with high end ammo and a 24x scope....no thanks
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You guys don't knock Turkey! They are killing it with some shotguns right now. I have a Girsan that rocks! And although I haven't experienced it firsthand, I read they have some handguns that are worth looking into. Here is my take on it! Everyone has a computer. Companies selling these piece of [bleep] firearms are getting called out. They ALL know if they want to sell guns, they have to be good. They are all changing their machinery to make better weapons. They do apparently make some really nice stuff there, but I dropped over a grand on a CZ shotgun that had to go to Kansas City because it would barely open. Should never have shipped like that. They fixed that, but they blew me off on the serious pattern convergence issue. A fair number show up for clays with Turkish autos, and they have more than their share of malfunctions. So it seems that like the Chinese, they can and do make good stuff, but the problem is sorting out the crap. What the service situation is like for other brands is an open question, and parts availability down the road is as well.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Check out 22 Plinkster on youTube. His review is pretty good. Under 1" at 100
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Check out 22 Plinkster on youTube. His review is pretty good. Under 1" at 100 It's pretty easy to shoot under 1" groups when you don't count "flyers" like he did in the video. drover
223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
24hourcampfire.com - The site where there is a problem for every solution.
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Check out 22 Plinkster on youTube. His review is pretty good. Under 1" at 100 It's pretty easy to shoot under 1" groups when you don't count "flyers" like he did in the video. drover Yep. "Optimistic" group estimation is par for the course with that guy.
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Have a friend who just got one....1 inch average at 50 with high end ammo and a 24x scope....no thanks Pretty much this. That’s not the standard anymore. OK for hunting I guess.
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I traded a muzzleloader I wasn't going to use for a black plastic stocked Target model at the local gun shop.
Accuracy was decidedly mediocre and not repeatable so I pulled the plastic stock and reamed enough clearance to float the barrel, Duh!
It was a bit better but nothing to brag about.
I spun on a chunky stainless muzzlebrake for a weight on the barrel. Now it actually shoots CCI Standard Velocity well enough to keep the rifle for more testing.
A "Target Rifle" it is not.
"Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them. You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend." Isak Dinesen
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