A lot of old safes, and I’m talking about real stand up heavy safes, the kinds you used to see in old stores and old banks had cyanide capsules that would break and kill you if you tried to drill the safe.
I know a guy who bought a building that had one of those in it and a routine fire inspector realized the capsule was still intact. So the owner let them bring in hazmat and do a little practice taking it out and destroying it. About six months later he got a call (from the company I think) looking for old safes with the capsules intact for their museum. They had tracked that one down and were hoping the capsule was still intact. They had been prepared to offer him $60k for it if he hadn’t had the capsule destroyed. lol
They’d just give them the actual combination. E-locks can be changed, Liberty would have no way of knowing what the combo would be hence the back door code.
Bought an electronic safe at a yard sale. Owner didn’t have combo. Contacted the company and sent them an affidavit and serial number, they sent me the unchangeable factory combo so i could input a new one for myself.
Originally Posted by Wannabebwana
[quote=Bry][quote=silver78]My old manual safe has no such back door.
That’s why I won’t buy an e lock. I’m sure there is a factory code for the dial combos also
They’d just give them the actual combination. E-locks can be changed, Liberty would have no way of knowing what the combo would be hence the back door code.
About 15 years I bought a Legacy gun safe with a S & G electronic lock. The paperwork that came with it informed me that it had this back door combination and that I could delete it if I chose to by entering a code. Merely setting my own combo would not override or delete the back door combination. They were at least honest about the back door combo. Too bad other manufacturers aren't as up front about it.
They’d just give them the actual combination. E-locks can be changed, Liberty would have no way of knowing what the combo would be hence the back door code.
Mechanical dial lock combos can be changed as well.
They’d just give them the actual combination. E-locks can be changed, Liberty would have no way of knowing what the combo would be hence the back door code.
About 15 years I bought a Legacy gun safe with a S & G electronic lock. The paperwork that came with it informed me that it had this back door combination and that I could delete it if I chose to by entering a code. Merely setting my own combo would not override or delete the back door combination. They were at least honest about the back door combo. Too bad other manufacturers aren't as up front about it.
Nope.
This is a combo that is built in and can be used to unlock it for a while bunch of reasons. No getting rid of it. It is NOT the 123456 that is set in the store.
They’d just give them the actual combination. E-locks can be changed, Liberty would have no way of knowing what the combo would be hence the back door code.
Mechanical dial lock combos can be changed as well.
Yep. But they still have a second code that will open the lock, which you don't know about.
Once the end user receives his safe, and his chosen combination is programmed in, Liberty safe should ask their customer if they'd like them to keep the back door code on file, or if they'd like that record to be destroyed. If they were a decent company that cared about their customers, that's how they'd handle it.
Not a lawyer, don't know exactly how this could play out .....
Important Info – If You Own a Liberty Safe, Get Rid of It – Company Provides Govt Access Codes to All Their Products
In a recent J6 case it has been revealed .......
Liberty Safe Co. gave the FBI the access code that would allow them to open the safe, without relying on (or asking) the owner to open it.
This is alarming on a few levels. First, why does Liberty even hold an override code for their safes.
Second, why didn’t Liberty just tell the FBI they do not own the safe, therefore the issue of compliance is between the owner and the FBI?
This is a ridiculous position easily avoided by saying, “we don’t own the safe.” <---- !!!
The bottom line is to avoid all the Liberty Safe products that allow them to access your private holdings, including gun safes and personal papers. If you own a Liberty Safe, just get rid of it. It’s compromised. Write it off to a lesson learned and forget about it.
Only the Liberty Safes line sold through big box stores (their economy models) are made in China. The ones typically carried by gun stores and safe stores are made in the USA.
