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Why? If a person spends their time on the classifieds and doesn’t dive into the other forums that’s zero reason to suspect anyone. If all of their classified posts have poor feedback that’s one thing, but just using the site different than you use it isn’t cause for concern by itself.

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Originally Posted by marksman1941
Why? If a person spends their time on the classifieds and doesn’t dive into the other forums that’s zero reason to suspect anyone. If all of their classified posts have poor feedback that’s one thing, but just using the site different than you use it isn’t cause for concern by itself.


The seller has 4,200 posts - apparently all of them in the classifieds. He should have enough experience to know the importance of using greater detail in his post.


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Originally Posted by marksman1941
Why? If a person spends their time on the classifieds and doesn’t dive into the other forums that’s zero reason to suspect anyone. If all of their classified posts have poor feedback that’s one thing, but just using the site different than you use it isn’t cause for concern by itself.

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Why? If a person spends their time on the classifieds and doesn’t dive into the other forums that’s zero reason to suspect anyone. If all of their classified posts have poor feedback that’s one thing, but just using the site different than you use it isn’t cause for concern by itself.

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Agree. Have done business with him in the past. Zero issues.

In the future, worth asking about function/condition if it isn't listed in the ad...

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I'm not here to DIS anyone, but so what, I spend a good deal of my time on here in the classifieds! Do I make comments else where, sure, but, im always looking here. I spose what I have to wonder is, the op posted this, but has not responded to any thoughts. Maybe busy, maybe not, I dunno. I guess I just struggle with the fact that the ad stated he didn't know anything about them and was just looking to unload them. Ya get what ya get I guess. Would I have cycled the Mossberg and pulled the the trigger, probably. Would I have done what the op did to make it work, yep! Would I have taken the Steven's out and shot it, no, I wouldn't have if I had no interest and wanted to move it, it was described as he knew it imho, purchased were two utilitarian guns that needed a little work, big deal

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Here is the actual ad:

I have a couple guns that were left when my wife’s grandfather passed away a few months back. Just looking to part with them. I honestly don’t know what they are worth so if my prices are to high please let me know through a pm. No need to blow up the post. Just looking to sell them and get what they might be worth.
#1 A break action 12 gauge made by Springfield J Stevens Company. Gun is in ok shape asking $165.00 shipped
#2 A 12 gauge pump shotgun.500k Mossburg takes 2 3/4. Not in bad shape. Asking $235.00 shipped.
If anyone wants pictures please pm me. If anyone know about these and me price is high please pm me

He stated he didn't know their worth.
He stated the break open was in ok shape.
He stated the pump was not in bad shape.
He never stated he didn't know about the guns. He just didn't know about the pricing.


Is there anyone here who does not check out a new to them firearm? We know the guns are in need of TLC. The pump is up and running. Sounds like the Stevens may need the chamber cleaned out and the extractor oiled up and freed if stuck. Maybe the extractor will work then.

There is no way I would have sold these guns without mentioning these problems and now he is ignoring the OP. Not a good way to run your business.


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Good afternoon Everyone,
I’m. Not here to try and defend myself in anyway, or comment on anything written about me . The gentleman that purchase the shotguns is going to return the stevens and get his money back.
I will text him a copy off the ffl.

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Why did it take this thread to get you to do the right thing?


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Originally Posted by marksman1941
Why? If a person spends their time on the classifieds and doesn’t dive into the other forums that’s zero reason to suspect anyone. If all of their classified posts have poor feedback that’s one thing, but just using the site different than you use it isn’t cause for concern by itself.

Says the Classified Cowboy.


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Ask him one more time nicely to resolve the issue privately. If he refuses, then post his name and the whole ordeal right here.


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You couldn't have paid me $300.00 to take those POS.

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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Why did it take this thread to get you to do the right thing?

I have a full time job. I don’t live on the forums. Any more questions you wants answered?

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Personally, I'd try to work out a small refund 20-30+- bucks? Or? Rather than another 30-40 bucks in shipping on a 100.00+- gun.
Seem reasonable?

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Originally Posted by NVhntr
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Why? If a person spends their time on the classifieds and doesn’t dive into the other forums that’s zero reason to suspect anyone. If all of their classified posts have poor feedback that’s one thing, but just using the site different than you use it isn’t cause for concern by itself.

Says the Classified Cowboy.

Again, tell me the problem with that? I’ll happily admit I spend all my time in the classifieds here. The straight talk sections of the forum tend to be nothing but whining and crying drivel, so why would I spend time over there?

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Originally Posted by winchester88
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Why did it take this thread to get you to do the right thing?

I have a full time job. I don’t live on the forums. Any more questions you wants answered?

BS, you’ve posted over 60 times since this sale but you couldn’t make it right till you were called out here.


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Originally Posted by winchester88
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Why did it take this thread to get you to do the right thing?

I have a full time job. I don’t live on the forums. Any more questions you wants answered?

BS answer. You’ve got 4k posts in the classifieds, so you know how things work. OP says you won’t return messages and removed yourself from the PM conversation. You should have made this right without arm twisting.

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Originally Posted by WMR
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Why did it take this thread to get you to do the right thing?

I have a full time job. I don’t live on the forums. Any more questions you wants answered?

BS answer. You’ve got 4k posts in the classifieds, so you know how things work. OP says you won’t return messages and removed yourself from the PM conversation. You should have made this right without arm twisting.

You all don't know the whole story here or the entire timeline. You would be well served to drop it. Winchester88 is handling it and doesn't deserve to be skewered here by anyone.

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Says the other Classified Cowboy


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Originally Posted by WMR
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Originally Posted by NVhntr
Why did it take this thread to get you to do the right thing?

I have a full time job. I don’t live on the forums. Any more questions you wants answered?

BS answer. You’ve got 4k posts in the classifieds, so you know how things work. OP says you won’t return messages and removed yourself from the PM conversation. You should have made this right without arm twisting.

Agreed, very bad form, and a pathetic excuse. Not anyone I ever care to do business with, and I hope nobody else does either. To ignore we go.

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