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If you had checked out that blog I just posted, you might have seen that Americans did the exact same thing in Afghanistan.

None of these schitheads ever heard of Kursk. Russia wrote the book on echeloned defense in depth.

If the lines truly are not moving (much) that would seem to indicate Russia has what it wants and is now just going to hold on to it and let NATO send Ukrainians in until they get tired and quit.

Pretty much. But if you convinced yourself that Russia was trying to take over all of Ukraine, and they haven't, it must mean Russia is losing.

Under no circumstances can it mean that your preconceived notion was wrong.

Are you denying that propaganda, misdirection and outright falsehoods are not being used by everyone on both sides of this clusterfuck in Ukraine?

Are you saying that anyone that doesn’t believe the “facts and figures” being released by the MSM and Ukraine as being 100% accurate is a “russkie-boy”?

Questioning or not believing the “facts” released by Ukraine or Russia or the USA or Germany or <insert any country> DOES NOT automatically imply that person is a stooge or sympathizer, it implies that the person doing the doubting is of their own mind and not a mindless Ukrainian or Russian sympathizer that happily licks up whatever their masters (MSM, Ukraine, Russia, USA, etc) put down…..it indicates that they are NOT willingly ignorant nor are they useful idiots for evil dipshits.

Questioning, doubting, calling bullshit and generally being weary of anything our government and their propaganda corps in the MSM says is the exact OPPOSITE of being a “russkie-boy” or “uketard” or a “covetard” or a “libtard” or a “tdoykatard”……questioning the narrative, doubting the “facts” especially as presented to us by the MIC, CIA, NSA, DNI, FBI, etc is not only NECESSARY but it’s absolutely essential to ferret out the truth!

If you, tdoyka, think that anyone not buying the bullshit spewed by the MSM and questioning the narrative being pushed by the US government and her strong-arm agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA, etc) is unpatriotic or pro-Russia simply because they don’t buy the bullshit hook line and sinker then it’s YOU that has become the useful idiot by playing the part of the retard that thinks he’s a genius. The idiot that is so beyond the point of living in or even understanding reality that it’s easier just watching you sit in the corner cutting, pasting, drooling and mumbling (in Russian) then it is arguing with you.

You’ve been so totally brainwashed by Beijing Biden and his cult followers that you can’t think for yourself and any opinions that you might have will have to wait until they’re told to you by the media. You’re so completely ignorant that you take offense to anyone that doesn’t believe the numbers that you cut and paste and your so emotionally unstable that you get angry and defensive when anyone questions your cut and paste as if you researched and wrote it yourself…..you didn’t did you? You didn’t write that most recent cut and paste did you? Are the numbers you posted on supposed Russian loses numbers that you pulled out of your ass or did you pull those out of someone else’s ass and you’re simply defending their ass?

Absolutely right. There are NO "FACTS" being released by any of the media.

This is just a thumbnail scratch of what the “other side” actually believes and the attitude that prevails on the left. This level of abject ignorance is not worth addressing directly or arguing with since no amount of facts, logic or reason can overcome their emotional investment into the clusterfuck in Ukraine.

If you tell one of these leftist retards that Ukraine has 40 million people and Russia has a 160 million people the retards on the left reply with, “yeah but you’re a Putin cock sucker”. If you tell them that Ukraine doesn’t possess the manufacturing capacity to support their war effort the retards on the left reply with, “yeah, but you love Putin’s dick”. If you point out the fact that we’ve sent more than $100 BILLION dollars to Ukraine….. > $100 BILLION DOLLARS!….the drooling retards on the left reply, “yeah, but you suck Putin’s cock”.

The disconnect in this country is immense. Stupidity and ignorance have become something to celebrate and embrace because in the absence of truth angry, emotional outbursts are considered acceptable substitutions for intelligence and self-control.

Arguing with dipshits like slave and his retarded coalition of the stupid is futile. When those dipshits claim that President Trump is the reason “people were hurt and SOME lost their lives” on January 6 there’s absolutely no redeeming value in talking to them further. They really are THAT fu.cking stupid and they really are NOT worth the effort…

and?

https://www.criticalthreats.org/analysis/ukraine-invasion-updates-ctp

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 8, 2023

Key Takeaways:

Russian forces have reportedly made notable changes to their command and control (C2) in Ukraine to protect command infrastructure and improve information sharing, although Russian force deployments are likely still exacerbating issues with horizontal integration.
Artillery constraints in Ukraine are reportedly prompting the Russian military to accelerate longstanding efforts to implement a fires doctrine prioritizing accuracy over volume.
Russian forces are additionally reportedly adapting their deployment of electronic warfare (EW) complexes.
Ukrainian forces reportedly continued to advance south of Bakhmut and south of Robotyne in western Zaporizhia Oblast but did not make any confirmed gains on September 8.
Russian forces conducted another series of Shahed-131/136 drone strikes targeting Odesa Oblast on the night of September 7–8.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov publicly rejected an incredibly favorable offer from the UN Secretariat that met many of Russia’s stated demands to rejoin the Black Sea Grain Initiative on September 6, indicating that the Kremlin is either delaying its return to the grain deal in an attempt to extract maximum concessions from the West or has no intention whatsoever of returning to the grain deal.
The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) directly responded to recent indications that the Armenian government may be questioning its decades-long security relationship with Russia.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove line, near Bakhmut, and along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line but did not make any confirmed advances on September 8.
The New York Times (NYT) — citing Western, African, and Russian sources — reported that Russian intelligence structures are competing for control of the Wagner Group’s assets and operations in Africa.
Russian occupation officials continue to hold illegal regional elections in occupied Ukraine. Russian occupation officials in Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts announced the start of in-person voting in occupied territories on September 8.

What was your point then, fahg?

unfortunately, the old Soviet tactics of pushing more men thru is not what what Russia needs. old tech vs new tech is not better, it's worse. Russia can send 10 to 15 men to take a couple of yards. Ukraine can do it with a man or two using new tech. Ukraine really isn't a new tech state, rather 1990s tech is beating the Russians.

where is the Russians T-14 Armata and Su-57? they are supposed to have them in the hundreds or may i say, the thousands. Russia has about 20 or tanks and the Su-57 has about 4. on paper, the tanks and plane are awe inspiring. but the actuality is that they are junk when they work. so they use what they got, before 1991 tanks and planes tech. when Russia first invaded Ukraine, i thought that would take 3 or 4 days to take Kiev. but the Ukrainians stopped the Russian advance on Kiev by using Territorial Defense or what we call the National Guard or Weekend Warriors. the elite Russian VDV vs Ukrainian Weekend Warriors. the Russian VDV was supposed to take Hostomel Airport and then troop planes were supposed to come in. instead, Ukrainian Weekend Warriors screwed up the Russkies' plan. not only did the Ukrainians screwed the VDV, the screwed the Russian tank battalions coming south to take Kiev. the VDV lost 50% of their men, the Russian tanks and armored troops carriers numbered in 100's of destroyed vehicles. yet the Ukrainians stand 1 1/2 later, taking back their territory with Western and Russian 1990s weapons tech.

Trump, may he get back the Presidency, is not going to give up Ukrainian support. he will take money given to Ukraine, but not the weapons.

Putin is the new Stalin/Mao/Hitler. what Putin says and does are Stalin/Mao/Hitler own actions. all Russia needs now is the gulags. oh, wait a minute....the Russians don't have to, minority Muslims, Jews, Oriental and whatever else Russians are going to Ukraine, not true Moscow to St Petersburg Russians.

unfortunately, the old Soviet tactics of pushing more men thru is not what what Russia needs. old tech vs new tech is not better, it's worse. Russia can send 10 to 15 men to take a couple of yards. Ukraine can do it with a man or two using new tech. Ukraine really isn't a new tech state, rather 1990s tech is beating the Russians.