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Originally Posted by Hastings
To quote Pilate "What is truth"? We sure are getting a bunch of stories that contradict each other.

Question to you tdoyka: Do you think Russia will be defeated? As in being driven from the part of Ukraine they now hold? What about Crimea, do they lose it in your estimation?
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Do the math on that. A Ukrainian brigade is said to be 4,000 men in principle, but many or even most of them reportedly have only 2k - 3k. Four figure casualties means upwards of half of the brigade or more is being completely wiped out, a fact sadly already corroborated by leaked documents...

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It becomes so clear now how decades of Western propaganda had built up their equipment with fraudulent, unearned accolades and distinctions. Now, in the first true test against a real foe, the lies all come crashing down.

Of course, such horrors as the above are underscored by the weekly mutinies taking place within the AFU ranks.


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Ukraine's latest strategy is to draft women and put them on the front lines. These Femme Fatales dazzle the Russians with their good looks, delaying Russian defense just long enough for the women to cap them.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Ukraine's latest strategy is to draft women and put them on the front lines. These Femme Fatales dazzle the Russians with their good looks, delaying Russian defense just long enough for the women to cap them.

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I keep hearing about the beautiful Ukraine women but all the pictures of Ukraine's refugee women in Poland look about like buffalo. Maybe they are saving the beautiful ones for bait to trap Russians.

Our infamous governor from the 1950s, Earl Long is reported to have said "if you can't bait a man with puzzy he can't be baited"


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Yep Russia is once again doing well, Ukraine not so much.

Ukes are almost done, would have been over quicker if America and canada didn’t provide money for the corrupt leader of Ukraine..


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Originally Posted by Partsman
Yep Russia is once again doing well, Ukraine not so much.

Ukes are almost done, would have been over quicker if America and canada didn’t provide money for the corrupt leader of Ukraine..
I see the Ruble is up 1.5 % today and is trading far above where it was early into the war. Maybe that is a good sign.


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https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 11, 2023

Karolina Hird, Nicole Wolkov, Christina Harward, Angelica Evans, and Mason Clark

September 11, 2023, 4:15pm ET


Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts on September 11 and have reportedly advanced near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
The Rosgvardia may be recruiting previously imprisoned former Wagner Group fighters, likely to further subsume Wagner remnants while bolstering Russia’s domestic security apparatus.
Russian border guards expressed similar grievances about limited capabilities and equipment to those voiced by Russian troops serving in Ukraine and continued to express concern over potential Ukrainian raids into Russia.
The Kremlin’s ruling United Russia party unsurprisingly achieved most of its desired results in highly fraudulent local elections in Russia and occupied Ukraine.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and Russian President Vladimir Putin will meet in Vladivostok in the coming days, likely to discuss bilateral relations and North Korea’s supplies of artillery munitions to Russia.
US and Armenian forces began joint military exercises in Armenia on September 11.
Russian forces conducted offensive operations along the Kupyansk-Svatove-Kreminna line, near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast and advanced in some areas on September 11.
Ukrainian forces conducted offensive operations in at least one sector of the front on September 11 and advanced near Bakhmut, along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line, in the western Donetsk-eastern Zaporizhia Oblast border area, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.
Russian Central Election Committee Head Alexander Sidyakin unsurprisingly claimed that United Russia received the majority of votes in occupied Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts.
Ukrainian and United Kingdom military officials reported on September 11 that the Russian military intends to mobilize over 400,000 personnel by the end of 2023.


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tdoyka: Do you think Russia will be driven out of Ukraine? What about Crimea?


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Originally Posted by Partsman
Yep Russia is once again doing well, Ukraine not so much.

Ukes are almost done, would have been over quicker if America and canada didn’t provide money for the corrupt leader of Ukraine..
And yet the lines remain static

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tdoyka: Do you think Russia will be driven out of Ukraine? What about Crimea?


yes, i do. as long as we and NATO equip them.

Russia does not train their men. the Russians give most their guys the AK and some ammo and then their off to Ukraine. we and NATO train the Ukraine's about 8 or 12 weeks. then if someone is going to a tank, artillery or planes, there is more training. "the more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle" is what the Drill Sergeant said to me.


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That's pretty ignorant statement.

Russia doesn't train their troops???

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Gaylensky threatens Europe with violence if he doesn't get more money:

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

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@TheStudyofWar 2 hours ago
NEW: #Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in #Donetsk and #Zaporizhia oblasts on September 11 and have reportedly advanced near #Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Latest: https://isw.pub/UkrWar091123



Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts on September 11 and have reportedly advanced near Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast. Ukrainian military officials announced on September 11 that Ukrainian forces have liberated 2 square kilometers of territory in the Bakhmut direction over the past week and have made gains near Klishchiivka (6km southwest of Bakhmut) and Andriiivka (9km southwest of Bakhmut).[1] Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar also stated that Ukrainian forces have gained a total of 4.8 square kilometers in the Tavriisk (Zaporizhia) operational direction over the past week, particularly south of Robotyne (10km south of Orikhiv) and west of Verbove (20km southeast of Orikhiv).[2]

US and Armenian forces began joint military exercises in Armenia on September 11. The Armenian Ministry of Defense stated that the joint US-Armenian “Eagle Partner 2023” exercises will prepare Armenian forces to take part in international peacekeeping missions and will last until September 20.[21] 85 US personnel and 175 Armenian personnel are participating in exercises at the Zar and Armavir training grounds near Yerevan.[22] “Eagle Partner 2023” will occur against the backdrop of increasingly tense relations between Moscow and Yerevan, as well as heightened tensions between Armenian and Azerbaijani forces in Nagorno-Karabakh.[23]


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@TheStudyofWar 2 hours ago
NEW: #Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in #Donetsk and #Zaporizhia oblasts on September 11 and have reportedly advanced near #Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Lines haven't moved since the counter-expensive started over 3 months ago.

And Bahkmut is officially Artemovsk now.

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https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar

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@TheStudyofWar 2 hours ago
NEW: #Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in #Donetsk and #Zaporizhia oblasts on September 11 and have reportedly advanced near #Bakhmut and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Lines haven't moved since the counter-expensive started over 3 months ago.

And Bahkmut is officially Artemovsk now.
That fugker is legally retarded.


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Originally Posted by Partsman
Yep Russia is once again doing well, Ukraine not so much.

Ukes are almost done, would have been over quicker if America and canada didn’t provide money for the corrupt leader of Ukraine..
And yet the lines remain static
Because the counter offensive is a major belly flop.

I feel like we've already gone over this.

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Originally Posted by tdoyka
Originally Posted by Hastings
tdoyka: Do you think Russia will be driven out of Ukraine? What about Crimea?


yes, i do. as long as we and NATO equip them.

Russia does not train their men. the Russians give most their guys the AK and some ammo and then their off to Ukraine. we and NATO train the Ukraine's about 8 or 12 weeks. then if someone is going to a tank, artillery or planes, there is more training. "the more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle" is what the Drill Sergeant said to me.
I am hoping Russia prevails and gets to keep the territory they've gained. It now looks like they have assumed a defense strategy that is working pretty well. I am hoping Western Europe soon decides to leave alone the facts on the ground.


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