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Thanks for the replies. I visit Montana yearly to bust a few prairie dogs, but have not been on foot much in bear country. We've driven through the right country, but we've yet to see a bear there (or even the Yellowstone area) of any kind -- black or griz. I know there are bunches. I've just not been in the right place at the right time.
Maybe someday they'll have to open season back up and I'll see a few pictures of you guys posing behind a griz...
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Maybe someday they'll have to open season back up and I'll see a few pictures of you guys posing behind a griz...
even without a season Sam has a pic like that 
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Maybe it's just me but unless I had a Guide backing me up I'd carry my 9.3x62 rifle because it's the biggest caliber that I can shoot accurately.
I've no doubt that a Grizzly will die from a 243 wound. I just prefer I don't die first. But I've never hunted a Grizzly so this isn't a decision based on experience.
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So this Frank Glasser who started hunting in 1915 through 1954 used a 220 swift which was invent in 1935 to hunt grizzlies instead of a 375 h&h invented in 1912? Even picked it over the 30-06?
Must of grown them stupid and lucky back then
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So this Frank Glasser who started hunting in 1915 through 1954 used a 220 swift which was invent in 1935 to hunt grizzlies instead of a 375 h&h invented in 1912? Even picked it over the 30-06?
Must of grown them stupid and lucky back then I bet there were lots of inexpensive Holland & Holland rifles floating around the bush in those days
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Ok, given the H&H were expensive, but there had to better alternatives than the 220swfit back then but skipping over the 30-06? come on...
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Once again, another thread that I'm amazed has gone on so long, especially since the original poster was obviously trolling.
I've been reading it since the beginning and NOBODY has advocated the .243 as the ideal grizzly round, though a few have said they wouldn't stay home if they suddenly got a chance to hunt grizzly and a .243 the only rifle they had.
Apparently there are lot of people in the world who like to get upset when something upsets their view of the universe, whether theorertical or real. But that's apparently been the state of humans since they moved out of caves, and maybe before.
Of course, a lot of the posters never read beyond the header before responding, which has apparently been the state of humans since Al Gore invented the Internet.
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John,
I realize the original poster was trolling.
But throwing out examples of past people using small varmint calibers for grizzly bears to justify using these calibers?
turns out common sense, isn't common anymore.
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Heck I never even commented regarding the caliber in question, I just cant help but comment when guys on here draw this picture of Huge Grizzly bears hiding behind every tree just a waiting for a hunter to walk by that cant be killed with anything smaller than a Abrams tank .
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The muzzle brake makes me think something larger than a 95 Partition was flyin' out of that muzzle... grin With an action as long as that rifle has, I rather wonder if an entire 6mm-223 DASI was "the projectile". 
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Mr. Glaser came to Alaska with a 30-06, he also used a 7mm, a .405, 250-3000,30-40 krag,and a .308.
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First off when you look at the pic of the brown bear up above I hope that's not what you guys are imagining when you think Grizzly, cuz they are two very different animals. For interior Alaska anyway Grizzly bears are on average not all that big. I have seen over a half dozen dead grizzlies and none of them were as big or much bigger than the biggest black bears we have killed. Have I seen big grizzlies well yeah but even they werent all that big, nothing like the bears I have seen on Kodiak or the Pen. I have chased dozens and dozens of grizzlies with a bow where you are inside 60 yards of them, and have seen and bumped into quite a few while sheep hunting and I think I have only gotten close to 1 bear that I would say was pushing 8 ft and say 500 lbs, the average was between 6-7 ft and no more than 400 lbs. There is this imaginary vision of huge vicious grizzlies and I just haven't seen any of them. Now when you get closer to the saltwater and the bears begin to grow to true big bear sizes they are disproportionately bigger. I think these which caliber is the best or will work on x or y threads for many are a chance for some to share real world experience and for some to express their imaginations, in the end there is no right or wrong IMO. true most interior griz are not that big but some are.....this one was hit by a pickup outside Lincoln Montana.....just over 800 pounds....granted its an exceptional animal outside the norm.... ![[Linked Image]](http://www.outdoorlife.com/files/imagecache/photo-gallery/photo/6/Gris_4_0.jpg) What an impressive set of claws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So this Frank Glasser who started hunting in 1915 through 1954 used a 220 swift which was invent in 1935 to hunt grizzlies instead of a 375 h&h invented in 1912? Even picked it over the 30-06?
Must of grown them stupid and lucky back then Just eactly how do you suppose an individual gets the experience to support a statement like Frank Glaser's? Should he only shoot stuff with really large calibers to determine the Swift was the right medicine? Maybe limit himself to the 06? He hunted for a long time in tough country and developed an opinion based on a tremendous number of trigger pulls.
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So this Frank Glasser who started hunting in 1915 through 1954 used a 220 swift which was invent in 1935 to hunt grizzlies instead of a 375 h&h invented in 1912? Even picked it over the 30-06?
Must of grown them stupid and lucky back then Maybe the era has nothing to do with it. I don't recall seeing any dead grizzly pics, but a well-known poster here has shared a lot of pics from some pretty wild country that I assume has grizzlies which he took while carrying a 220 Swift... 
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outstanding!!! congratulations!!
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so does this all mean the perfect black bear cartridge is a 22-250??? in pennsylvania yes. and often. not by me tho
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maybe doubletap 85gr 243 ammo in todays world.
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Allways new guys dragging up 10 year old + stupid threads. Seeking relevance?
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Allways new guys dragging up 10 year old + stupid threads. Seeking relevance? Not a new guy…..probably a hijacked account lol.
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