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It's not 1 out of 20. It's 1 aircraft out of 20 crashing once after all 20 have been flying for 40 years. That decreases the 5% significantly. Comparing an aircraft crash to a scope failure is a little wonky.

On what data are you basing this statement?

No not really.

Those scopes were obviously used sparingly over that time.

Facts remain the same, 5% failure rate for the OP.

For others it may be less, for others, maybe more.

But to your point, 5% of planes over 40 years being defective enough to crash surely wouldn't be acceptable either, would it?

Leopold used to be pretty good before lots of dialing became normal. But Leupold just has not seen fit to bring their mechanical innards up the the level of numerous others today.

YMMV

MM

They never were. I remember someone saying the engineers in El Paso could fiquire out tracking unlike the ones in Beaverton.

The 6-18x is the biggest piece of fhuqking schit,they've ever made in 1". The multi joint body and length,make them Goat Fhuqks. They can't even begin to handle being flogged upon. Hint.

Sillywet come-ups are next to nothing and hardly a fhuqking "test" of erector aptitude. Hint...........................

I've got an Arken epl 4-16x44 coming , maybe I'll learn what a good scope is ??

I kicked Leupold to the curb around 1998. Swarovski & Nightforce for me.

Most of the cranks here have no grasp of MTBF. Everything breaks sooner or later.

The NTSB should send out an investigation team to the site of every Leupold failure to reduce the odds of a hunt going bad.

The horror!

ARKEN gets it right,because they focus upon that which matters MOST. Pun be intended. Hint.




An ARKEN reticle alone,will do more than (2) Reupold 6-18's bolted together. The Reupold '18x has but 50-ish MOA on the turret,which pales and wanders like a Mad Woman going to take a fhuqking schit. Hint.



While I only have (15) or so Barkin' ARKEN's,they are mechanically fhuqking EXCEPTIONAL. Hint.



Just sayin'.

Hint.......................

Well, Deny'ers gonna Deny, but of all the major brand scope ever discussed on this forum, Leopold by an order of magnitude gets the most recognition for failures............nothing else is within a distant mile.

But rock on Leupold fans. And I'm not a Hater, still got several & will use them 'til they crash but they don't get used anymore for anything that matters.

MM

Well, they are the most produced, most sold and most used brand in the US as well, so their is that minor detail to factor in the equation as well

Back in the 70's when I was first introduced to Leupold, they were the top of the heap. I never had a single issue with one, ever, and I had several of them. I can't pinpoint a date, but at some point, I had one of them malfunction. It was my oldest original scope I purchased in 77 on my first ever rifle. I sent it in, they repaired it, returned it & it only lasted one more hunt beyond that and broke again. I then began to hear other stories of the decline & dissatisfaction of their service department. A wise man learns by other's mistakes, a fool by his own. That was 1990 something and I moved on, never to go back.

Nobody that shoots even a smidge,trusts or uses Reupold. They are the staple of The Do NOTHING Gang and their Couchbound Kchunts. Hint.................

You should go show them how it's done.

Leupold #1 scope used in PRS by top shooters

I wonder why they're not on that list???

Another chart:

https://precisionrifleblog.com/2020/09/05/best-elr-scope-and-scope-mount-and-rings/

No, not even close to most sold, used brand in the US. They lost that title quite a few years ago. Vortex is by far the largest by any and every measure.

Still use several 1" VX2s, 3s, M8s. But not buying more. Partly b/c the world has gone away from 1", and the 30mm Leups are too much money for too little scope. Certainly so, vs Arkens and SWFAs.

Get the all devices can fail argument. Combines well with the more failures in the more sold point.

Then, had two Leups fail and am still waiting for the first Arken or SWFA failure.

The more compelling factor is mechanical reliability. I learned not to trust zero with the Leups till verified on a separate range trip. And always did as Leup suggested - rapping the rings after every adjustment. Amazed at my own gullibility on that one....... The lack of reliability connects with durability. At least in my head. And the last thing I need is doubt.

Will keep using them, like MM. Out back. Not likely going on any expensive trips via airports rest of the way.

of all those Vortex sold it would be interesting to know what percentage of China what percentage or Philippines and what percentage for US made